Patch Notes 15/9/2017

[flintboth]

What would encourage strategies for an open zones RvR, to have multiple fights, with three or two pairings is to cumulate points with maps locked.
One point for a T1 map, two points for a T2 map, three points for a T3 map and four points for a T4 pairing.
And the calcul of zones locked will determinate the winner side, tick + announcement.
If it is not already done...

[Collateral]

I don't see that happening, like ever. Can you even imagine the amount of time this would take? Plus, I don't remember the last time I saw all zones locked. Yesterday evening destro zerg locked all t4 zones and got their worthless seal. Requiring ALL zones to lock before rewards is a seriously bad idea. We don't even have enough population for all zones to be open. If I understood you correctly.

[flintboth]

Spoiler:

Stop whine about everythings, 799 e whine post from you...
Colateral don't wana a multiple zones RvR ! ok but let try and see.
Colateral wana be in middle of everywhere !
Here is just one more suggestion.

I don't know what made you think attacking a fellow player on a Patch notes thread was a good idea, but stop right now. User has been warned for this post. Keep it civil - Penril.

[Paura]

9/15/2017


R.I.P. Squig Herder

[Telen]

Extended the Radius of the following ground target abilities to match VFX radius -

Napalm Grenade
Sticky Feetz
Rain of Fire
Dissolving Mist
Tzeentch's Firestorm
Mistress of the Marsh
Pit of Shades

Nice

[Collateral]

Mate, I am all for multiple zones. You have no idea how bored I am from this zerg. But having all zones open just won't work. I believe it might never work. But of course, if devs decide to test it, I will join.

[Karast]

I'm indifferent to the removal of UF. We'll see how it plays out.

One thing I've been wanting to ask for while, though, is: is it the team's intention to keep "morale bombing" in warband play viable, or will the team work to diminish morale bombing, whatever that might look like (decreasing morale pumps, removing big damage morales from the game, etc.) And if the former, any chance we could see speccable m2s and m3s in the future? Obviously that would require a lot of the development of new skills, but understandably down the road. If the latter, would we see speccable abilities to take the place of morales down the road (things like the bowling ball skill torque talked about for SHs)? Those abilities might have 1-2 minute cooldown timers to act like morales but might not have the same damaging effect.

Moral bombing was semi-viable for Destruction (Squigs + tanks), but now its just tanks with their heavily nerfed moral tactics

However, for Order you still have BW and SW with perfectly viable M2 moral bombing accompanied by tanks (because of heavy nerfs to Destro, Order tanks will not be that late to the M2 dumping party compared to how it was)

Considering how Order gets to keep BW + SW M2s, warband moral bombing is perfectly viable, that is, if you are playing Order.
Sorc or Squig M4 will arrive to the fight after maybe 2 mins, whereas BW with tactic dumps their M2 in about 12 seconds, unless pumped by an AM and in 7-9 seconds.

So I guess I will be ranking up my BW next...

Atm I'm not sure if this is an "accidental" rebalancing effort, or fully 100% calculated plan to do weird rebalancing between moral bombing WBs and their respective core bombing classes, but I think it might just be "oops", there goes Destruction moral bombing.

You are off base. No order group is running AM morale pump, and to morale pump on a WB scale you would need at least 6 AM and 6 BW to make it even close to viable. You know that AM are a subpar WB healer, and you can't bring 6. Maybe 4 but then you lose RP's. 6BW is doable but if you got bw that means no SW they fill the same spots, and if you split between BW / SW that means the morale pump on BW screws up the bomb timing.

1-2 morale 2's is a crap bomb. You know you need multiple instant morales to spike, and the morale pump tactics on BW are junk unless if you got an 8 bw comp, and no one has that atm. No one. Same goes for AM. It is something that looks great in theory but in testing it falls flat, and it is better to have the bomb together, and even then unless you backline BW's and gut their regular dps, you are just going to get drained.

People keep beating on this dead horse. It has been tried and tested and it is not worth it. Especially with the ease of morale drain via AoE mara with tactic. Half the reason I think people bring it up is to convince people to waste tactic slots as they get spam drained by 3-4 mara's on the front.

Mara also have a good bombing M2. As do WE, both of witch are common in destro WB's. It is rare to see a WB without 2-3 maras these days which adds on to the BO and raze bomb.

Also your BW is already ranked!

[tionblack]

""Removed Unshakable Focus Morale 2 from physical RDPS classes - This one ability makes any buffs to these classes problematic to say the least so we are going to have a phase where we can gauge the classes effectiveness without it.??:""


More hit on those who combine utilities and skills well.

[Specialpatrol]

I haven't read through all the posts in this thread, so excuses, if this has already been answered - but where do you hand in completed Conq quests now?

[Haojin]

I'm indifferent to the removal of UF. We'll see how it plays out.

One thing I've been wanting to ask for while, though, is: is it the team's intention to keep "morale bombing" in warband play viable, or will the team work to diminish morale bombing, whatever that might look like (decreasing morale pumps, removing big damage morales from the game, etc.) And if the former, any chance we could see speccable m2s and m3s in the future? Obviously that would require a lot of the development of new skills, but understandably down the road. If the latter, would we see speccable abilities to take the place of morales down the road (things like the bowling ball skill torque talked about for SHs)? Those abilities might have 1-2 minute cooldown timers to act like morales but might not have the same damaging effect.

Moral bombing was semi-viable for Destruction (Squigs + tanks), but now its just tanks with their heavily nerfed moral tactics

However, for Order you still have BW and SW with perfectly viable M2 moral bombing accompanied by tanks (because of heavy nerfs to Destro, Order tanks will not be that late to the M2 dumping party compared to how it was)

Considering how Order gets to keep BW + SW M2s, warband moral bombing is perfectly viable, that is, if you are playing Order.
Sorc or Squig M4 will arrive to the fight after maybe 2 mins, whereas BW with tactic dumps their M2 in about 12 seconds, unless pumped by an AM and in 7-9 seconds.

So I guess I will be ranking up my BW next...

Atm I'm not sure if this is an "accidental" rebalancing effort, or fully 100% calculated plan to do weird rebalancing between moral bombing WBs and their respective core bombing classes, but I think it might just be "oops", there goes Destruction moral bombing.

You are off base. No order group is running AM morale pump, and to morale pump on a WB scale you would need at least 6 AM and 6 BW to make it even close to viable. You know that AM are a subpar WB healer, and you can't bring 6. Maybe 4 but then you lose RP's. 6BW is doable but if you got bw that means no SW they fill the same spots, and if you split between BW / SW that means the morale pump on BW screws up the bomb timing.

1-2 morale 2's is a crap bomb. You know you need multiple instant morales to spike, and the morale pump tactics on BW are junk unless if you got an 8 bw comp, and no one has that atm. No one. Same goes for AM. It is something that looks great in theory but in testing it falls flat, and it is better to have the bomb together, and even then unless you backline BW's and gut their regular dps, you are just going to get drained.

People keep beating on this dead horse. It has been tried and tested and it is not worth it. Especially with the ease of morale drain via AoE mara with tactic. Half the reason I think people bring it up is to convince people to waste tactic slots as they get spam drained by 3-4 mara's on the front.

Mara also have a good bombing M2. As do WE, both of witch are common in destro WB's. It is rare to see a WB without 2-3 maras these days which adds on to the BO and raze bomb.

Also your BW is already ranked!

I will keep it simple and short; you have no idea what you talking about.