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Re: Healhammer Online

Post#51 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:01 pm

As were going by scoreboards just jumped on my crapily geared bw. Pissed all over the dps of those dps ams got half our dbs and that geared sorc burst everyone down because we had ams instead of real healers.
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Post#52 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:04 pm

Foomy44 wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:00 pm It isn't true that I consider my healing ok when I'm barely paying attention to my teammates HP? Thanks for correcting me on what I think, apparently I was a bit confused. I can see why you want everyone here to ignore SC charts so much when they constantly look like this https://imgur.com/a/7wvXh9k
28 dbs by the bw. Just going to ignore that it was the bw not the ams that was the mvp?
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Re: Healhammer Online

Post#53 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:05 pm

Spoiler:
Telen wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:01 pm As were going by scoreboards just jumped on my crapily geared bw. Pissed all over the dps of those dps ams got half our dbs and that geared sorc burst everyone down because we had ams instead of real healers.
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Wow, you outdps'd a lvl 32 AM and another AM that somehow managed to do even less damage than the lvl 32 one. Congratz?
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Re: Healhammer Online

Post#54 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:07 pm

Foomy44 wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:05 pm
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Telen wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:01 pm As were going by scoreboards just jumped on my crapily geared bw. Pissed all over the dps of those dps ams got half our dbs and that geared sorc burst everyone down because we had ams instead of real healers.
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Wow, you outdps'd a lvl 32 AM and another AM that somehow managed to do even less damage than the lvl 32 one. Congratz?
A 32 will have higher damage than a 40 unless they are well geared.
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Re: Healhammer Online

Post#55 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:07 pm

Telen wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:04 pm
Foomy44 wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:00 pm It isn't true that I consider my healing ok when I'm barely paying attention to my teammates HP? Thanks for correcting me on what I think, apparently I was a bit confused. I can see why you want everyone here to ignore SC charts so much when they constantly look like this https://imgur.com/a/7wvXh9k
28 dbs by the bw. Just going to ignore that it was the bw not the ams that was the mvp.
I have never argued that BW has worse burst. In a setup like this the one with most burst will get the most DBs, don't see how that somehow negates everything the AMs did in that match. BTW didn't you say a dps healer can only put out 1/3 the healing of a pure healer class? Cuz looks to me like a shammy and an AM in that match that both did good damage for their team did more than half the healing of any of the healers playing that match.
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Re: Healhammer Online

Post#56 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:13 pm

Foomy44 wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:07 pm
Telen wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:04 pm
Foomy44 wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:00 pm It isn't true that I consider my healing ok when I'm barely paying attention to my teammates HP? Thanks for correcting me on what I think, apparently I was a bit confused. I can see why you want everyone here to ignore SC charts so much when they constantly look like this https://imgur.com/a/7wvXh9k
28 dbs by the bw. Just going to ignore that it was the bw not the ams that was the mvp.
I have never argued that BW has worse burst. In a setup like this the one with most burst will get the most DBs, don't see how that somehow negates everything the AMs did in that match. BTW didn't you say a dps healer can only put out 1/3 the healing of a pure healer class? Cuz looks to me like a shammy and an AM in that match that both did good damage for their team did more than half the healing of any of the healers playing that match.
HPS =/= healing. Thats why the bw got 28dbs. Spamming gheals doesnt cut it vs burst.
Also you had 4 shaman that cant cleanse ams. So of course they had a good time. It would be very different against doks.
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Re: Healhammer Online

Post#57 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:14 pm

Foomy44 wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:00 pm It isn't true that I consider my healing ok when I'm barely paying attention to my teammates HP? Thanks for correcting me on what I think, apparently I was a bit confused. I can see why you want everyone here to ignore SC charts so much when they constantly look like this https://imgur.com/a/7wvXh9k
May I explain your own screenshot?

I see at least 4 shaman on destro side as healers. All can't cleanse AM and BW. Are you surprised, that they managed to be the strongest dps in that situation, when no counter is available?
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Re: Healhammer Online

Post#58 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:27 pm

"dps healers heal too much" Posts ss of a bw getting 28dbs against his dps healer. :roll:
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Re: Healhammer Online

Post#59 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:37 pm

Telen wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:27 pm "dps healers heal too much" Posts ss of a bw getting 28dbs against his dps healer. :roll:
Who's ignoring most of the relevant info now? You really love cherry picking info for your arguments huh? I have repeatedly said I'm not a good healer and don't utilize the mechanic well, I didn't bring my numbers up at all in discussing this screenshot, so why are you pretending my numbers mean anything there? My playing bad somehow makes the numbers the DPS AMs are pulling there mean nothing?

And what exactly was your point here? Destro had less dps healers than order in that SC, so how exactly does the BW getting lots of DBs against the team with 2 dps healers while being supported by 3 dps healers (and the stronger spec in this situation btw, ~100% of the complaints in this thread have been against AMs not Shammies) imply that dps healers are balanced?
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Re: Healhammer Online

Post#60 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:11 pm

Foomy44 wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:37 pm
Telen wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:27 pm "dps healers heal too much" Posts ss of a bw getting 28dbs against his dps healer. :roll:
Who's ignoring most of the relevant info now? You really love cherry picking info for your arguments huh? I have repeatedly said I'm not a good healer and don't utilize the mechanic well, I didn't bring my numbers up at all in discussing this screenshot, so why are you pretending my numbers mean anything there? My playing bad somehow makes the numbers the DPS AMs are pulling there mean nothing?

And what exactly was your point here? Destro had less dps healers than order in that SC, so how exactly does the BW getting lots of DBs against the team with 2 dps healers while being supported by 3 dps healers (and the stronger spec in this situation btw, ~100% of the complaints in this thread have been against AMs not Shammies) imply that dps healers are balanced?
You post a misleading screen where the order healers can cleanse the des dps and all 4 des healers can’t cleanse orders dots. Anyone with knowledge of the classes know what you’re doing there.
Either you knew it was misleading or don’t understand how important cleansing is. If the second then no wonder you’re having issues.
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