I fully agree that the weekend event scenario shouldn't always be "King of the hill" that only caters to meleeballs.
I don't care about premades vs. pugs. Having different scenario types would greatly improve the event.
Weekly Event Scenario -observations & changes needed
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Re: Weekly Event Scenario -observations & changes needed
weekend event scen,,,,,, KING OF THE HILL AGAIN!!!!
more T4 95% detsro wins of which 75% 500 -0, 27kills to 0
no idea why the 50% destro win 50% order win fun completive Logain forge version of this scen was strangely changed to destro meleeball king of the hill 1 base at a time zerg version for the event.
Why?
thats now logain forge, reikland hills and that multiple base lava one all strangely all changed from 50% detsor win to 95% king of the hill destro win
god forbid we have 50% wins in a 2faction game!!
what's next week's event scen?, Black fire pass?, Tol amroc? Moukain temple? College of corruption?? king of the hill, king of the hill, king of the hill, king of the hill,,,,
still waitign for a gm to explain why they persist in choosing king of the hill and will not rotate the scenarios to fairer distribution of 1 in every 3 weeks multiple base scens eg gate sof ekrund, reik factory, altford war quarters, and 1 in every 3 weeks flag running eg phoenix gate, howlign gorge, stonetroll
and still waiting for gmns to publish the win% and victory margin data for king of the hill event scen compared with these 2 others
yet again destro complete event in 1hr and order 3days or never, yet again destro 100,000 renown per hour and order 1000, yet again destro 200 kills per hour and order 3,
every friday, groundhog day. god forbid both team can compete all way to end and have fun 500-470 close games.
remember this is not about premade vs pugs its about King of the Hill type scens being chosen almost every single week for the event with no explanation WHy there is not a more even spread weaken event scen types.
more T4 95% detsro wins of which 75% 500 -0, 27kills to 0
no idea why the 50% destro win 50% order win fun completive Logain forge version of this scen was strangely changed to destro meleeball king of the hill 1 base at a time zerg version for the event.
Why?
thats now logain forge, reikland hills and that multiple base lava one all strangely all changed from 50% detsor win to 95% king of the hill destro win
god forbid we have 50% wins in a 2faction game!!
what's next week's event scen?, Black fire pass?, Tol amroc? Moukain temple? College of corruption?? king of the hill, king of the hill, king of the hill, king of the hill,,,,
still waitign for a gm to explain why they persist in choosing king of the hill and will not rotate the scenarios to fairer distribution of 1 in every 3 weeks multiple base scens eg gate sof ekrund, reik factory, altford war quarters, and 1 in every 3 weeks flag running eg phoenix gate, howlign gorge, stonetroll
and still waiting for gmns to publish the win% and victory margin data for king of the hill event scen compared with these 2 others
yet again destro complete event in 1hr and order 3days or never, yet again destro 100,000 renown per hour and order 1000, yet again destro 200 kills per hour and order 3,
every friday, groundhog day. god forbid both team can compete all way to end and have fun 500-470 close games.
remember this is not about premade vs pugs its about King of the Hill type scens being chosen almost every single week for the event with no explanation WHy there is not a more even spread weaken event scen types.
Re: Weekly Event Scenario -observations & changes needed
Can you stop cry ? it's the same for destro.
Creat or join a premade and learn to play with them, no more king of the hill problem.
Creat or join a premade and learn to play with them, no more king of the hill problem.
Re: Weekly Event Scenario -observations & changes needed
Collison; another person who does not actually read or understand the post
for the 7th time this is not about premade vs pug its about the weekend event scen being more often than not King of the Hill
im aware Collision you and many like you think in terms of Self gain > all (WoW 2004)
but many of us think Community > self (EQ 1999)
and the king of hill scen is 500-0 non stop if i were winning all day 500-0 27-0 id still make the same post and have the same problem with it, it's an utter stomp an not competitive. To choose it for the weekend event scen its atrocious
if the gms made the weekend event scen gates of ekrund, or altdorf war quarters or stonetroll or reik factory something that requires ppl splitting up and takeign more than 1 thing at the same time, or runnign objectives a, the it would be much more competitive for both team, the premade may still win but they had to work a bit hard, the losers may still lsoe but they gave it a good go and got to 300 points and took some bases and got some kills.
king of the hill is 500-0 27-0 1side brainless no tactics required win, other side helpless can do nothing zero reward
other scens types are 500- 300 22-11 best side and most tactical wins , sues map, makes multiple decisions as the scen progresses, and is rewarded , losing team is rewarded also for theoir efforts and completive scen fun for all
im not even asking for king of the hill to be wiped from event scen weekly choice im just saying there are 3 types of scen, rotate it to 1 week out of 3, very simple, BillyBasics and surely should be happening anyway, incredulous that there are 3 types of scen and event scen shud be 33% 33% 33% but instead its 90% king of the hill 5% 5% others. and GMs seem to be unaware or oblivious of this ratio
this bit at the bottom is esp for Collision:
it....is.......not......about.... Premades.......vs.... PuGs.....it ....is......about....King.....of....The ....Hill
for the 7th time this is not about premade vs pug its about the weekend event scen being more often than not King of the Hill
im aware Collision you and many like you think in terms of Self gain > all (WoW 2004)
but many of us think Community > self (EQ 1999)
and the king of hill scen is 500-0 non stop if i were winning all day 500-0 27-0 id still make the same post and have the same problem with it, it's an utter stomp an not competitive. To choose it for the weekend event scen its atrocious
if the gms made the weekend event scen gates of ekrund, or altdorf war quarters or stonetroll or reik factory something that requires ppl splitting up and takeign more than 1 thing at the same time, or runnign objectives a, the it would be much more competitive for both team, the premade may still win but they had to work a bit hard, the losers may still lsoe but they gave it a good go and got to 300 points and took some bases and got some kills.
king of the hill is 500-0 27-0 1side brainless no tactics required win, other side helpless can do nothing zero reward
other scens types are 500- 300 22-11 best side and most tactical wins , sues map, makes multiple decisions as the scen progresses, and is rewarded , losing team is rewarded also for theoir efforts and completive scen fun for all
im not even asking for king of the hill to be wiped from event scen weekly choice im just saying there are 3 types of scen, rotate it to 1 week out of 3, very simple, BillyBasics and surely should be happening anyway, incredulous that there are 3 types of scen and event scen shud be 33% 33% 33% but instead its 90% king of the hill 5% 5% others. and GMs seem to be unaware or oblivious of this ratio
this bit at the bottom is esp for Collision:
it....is.......not......about.... Premades.......vs.... PuGs.....it ....is......about....King.....of....The ....Hill
Re: Weekly Event Scenario -observations & changes needed
look like you don't understand other people post too.
Destro have the same problem when pu vs premade on a king of the hill sc.
We are saying to you but maybe to hard to understand : make or find a group, teamplay and no more 500-0.
The only think you are saying is : "Destro are no brain, if order have not king of the hill sc they will win because they have better tactics"...
Destro have the same problem when pu vs premade on a king of the hill sc.
We are saying to you but maybe to hard to understand : make or find a group, teamplay and no more 500-0.
The only think you are saying is : "Destro are no brain, if order have not king of the hill sc they will win because they have better tactics"...
Re: Weekly Event Scenario -observations & changes needed
King of the Hill maps are picked more often because it emphasis on team fights more than other maps, you might not like that and there's nothing wrong with that. You say that it's not a premade vs pugs issue, but it's a major cause for a king of the hill to end 500-0. Nevertheless, there should also be some sort of rotation between scenario modes. After reaching out to Dalen, we've agreed that next weekend's warfront won't be King of the Hill. I will try to keep track of that rotation to cover more SC modes.Meliannia wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:53 pm king of the hill is 500-0 27-0 1side brainless no tactics required win, other side helpless can do nothing zero reward
other scens types are 500- 300 22-11 best side and most tactical wins , sues map, makes multiple decisions as the scen progresses, and is rewarded , losing team is rewarded also for theoir efforts and completive scen fun for all
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Re: Weekly Event Scenario -observations & changes needed
I would love to see an honest scenario win rate data shared as well, probably not going to happen as you also statedskylinx wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:29 am The GMs have the data for these events. I've posed the question whether they could publish that data and we can stop speculating over what we all probably suspect is true. I wish they would release said data and we can discuss as a community how we can improve play for both factions. Other MMOs allow their community to see leaderboards, server scores, overall scenario scoring, mmr, ranked season results etc
I suspect the rate is very similar to city scores. Shame they can't rotate the city scenario for all the reasons you have presented here
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Re: Weekly Event Scenario -observations & changes needed
thank you, games Bond
much appreciated , all the fair minded players are asking is a rotation 1 per 3 weeks for each scen type,
1. multiple bases eg gates of Ekrund, altdorf war quarters, reik factory etc
2. flag runner eg phoenix gate, stonetroll, howlign gorge etc
3. king of hill eg tol amroc, mounkain temple, college of corruption etc
thanks for listening and looking at this more closely form now on.)
The Mel.
much appreciated , all the fair minded players are asking is a rotation 1 per 3 weeks for each scen type,
1. multiple bases eg gates of Ekrund, altdorf war quarters, reik factory etc
2. flag runner eg phoenix gate, stonetroll, howlign gorge etc
3. king of hill eg tol amroc, mounkain temple, college of corruption etc
thanks for listening and looking at this more closely form now on.)
The Mel.
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Re: Weekly Event Scenario -observations & changes needed
Gms are fair minded too, Collision, it seems
never ever said destro are not fairminded
i sed fair-minded PLAYERs thats both destro and Order.
i know many destro who would rather win 500-470 in an epic game or even lose 470-500 in an epci game, than steamroll 500-0 or be steamrolled 0-500 non stop coz of king of the hill.
they agree with me and not with you, son, the Glory of Democracy. Long may this New Age continue.
as the GM Gamesbond said, its about premade sin the king of the hill scen only, its an issue that effects both realms, its not premades vs pugs, its that one scenario TYPE king of the hill,
now we move on for a fairer weekend event scen distribution. more fun more competitive matches no team stuck at base for 10misn for zero kill zero renown, blow the dust of that M key, Collison, my boy, and pay attention to how the battle map is developing and the bases taken. wot wot.
never ever said destro are not fairminded
i sed fair-minded PLAYERs thats both destro and Order.
i know many destro who would rather win 500-470 in an epic game or even lose 470-500 in an epci game, than steamroll 500-0 or be steamrolled 0-500 non stop coz of king of the hill.
they agree with me and not with you, son, the Glory of Democracy. Long may this New Age continue.
as the GM Gamesbond said, its about premade sin the king of the hill scen only, its an issue that effects both realms, its not premades vs pugs, its that one scenario TYPE king of the hill,
now we move on for a fairer weekend event scen distribution. more fun more competitive matches no team stuck at base for 10misn for zero kill zero renown, blow the dust of that M key, Collison, my boy, and pay attention to how the battle map is developing and the bases taken. wot wot.
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