Lazy Peon Part 2 1!?!?

[Repulsion]

Is that happening en masse? Small d!#k energy party poopers

I've played with friend I managed to drag into this game a 5scs and an hour of rvr. 3 kills in 1 hour of rvr. Zero wins out of 5scs.

If destro really runs premades in T1 then just queue discordant skirmish. Should solve the problem as you can queue this sc as duo max.

Just know the ins and outs of an archaic, (sadly) niche MMO that you thought you might try out for the nostalgia and see if you stick around; got it.
An alternative would be not being a carrot and refraining from stomping a T1 full of newcomers with a premade full of pots and max talis.

it could be possible that new players when queueing sc simply click "join all" button thinking they're joining only DS, while in fact they're joining DS+all other scenarios queues where premades are allowed. look at lazypeon video, that's what he did,and i'm sure a lot of other people won't see difference either.

The guy I quoted joined the server back in 2017. He should know how queueing works
Also I hope that the new player quests explain the joining options.

...and the other dozens of guys you didn't quote, who won't report on this perceived issue on the forums and will just quit the game in frustration?
I get what you're trying to say but think a bit. The problem goes beyond this one guy and his newbie friend.

[rejndjer]

it could be possible that new players when queueing sc simply click "join all" button thinking they're joining only DS, while in fact they're joining DS+all other scenarios queues where premades are allowed. look at lazypeon video, that's what he did,and i'm sure a lot of other people won't see difference either.

The guy I quoted joined the server back in 2017. He should know how queueing works
Also I hope that the new player quests explain the joining options.

what i meant is. maybe these destro guys just decided to play new characters and level up together. they queued as premade and not in DS. but these newbie guys don't realize that they're maybe queueing for BOTH DS and other scenarios where premades are allowed. it literally happened to lazypeon if you watched video closely.

[tazdingo]

to reiterate again to the 'what if some members of the same guild just wanna play discordant at the same time' people... it's REALLY easy to check the killboard and see you all starting and finishing on the exact same sc...

[wargrimnir]

to reiterate again to the 'what if some members of the same guild just wanna play discordant at the same time' people... it's REALLY easy to check the killboard and see you all starting and finishing on the exact same sc...

If you see someone abusing the Discordant queue, report it with evidence to a GM. We've had zero reports about it so far, which might be an important datapoint for the conversation going on here.

[tazdingo]

to reiterate again to the 'what if some members of the same guild just wanna play discordant at the same time' people... it's REALLY easy to check the killboard and see you all starting and finishing on the exact same sc...

If you see someone abusing the Discordant queue, report it with evidence to a GM. We've had zero reports about it so far, which might be an important datapoint for the conversation going on here.

it happened during the video question and people have been openly admitting to it

[Sulorie]

People make it sound as if premade SC result in a steamroll and DS is super balanced with fair fights and similar end scores for both teams.

[Mordd]

Any premades found abusing the system to engage with Discordant Skirmishes need to be reported. We have zero tolerance for this type of abuse and they will be dealt with swiftly. This has already been discussed internally.

what if people from populated guilds wants to play DS ? where is the thin line and how people gonna prove if it's not intentional ?

It's easy to spot a formulated 2/2/2 recurring in scenarios and we can run checks to see how groups were formulated prior to entering the scenario. So if a certain 2/2/2 is showing up frequently in DC and is reported we can check.

Therefore to answer your point, if you aren't abusing the system and trying to get into it as a premade, you're fine. If you are, take this as the opportunity to stop.

So let me get this straight. If you are in a group, the group is not allowed to break up and solo que. Especially during times like late night NA where there may not be any group pops happening so people decide to just solo que.

[Mordd]

Also where is this "premade" limit? Four people? Five? or only a full 6?
Do they all need to be same guild? You cant see if they are in discord together unless you happen to know them and their guild.
What if its not a 2/2/2?

This is all very ambiguous.

[wargrimnir]

This isn't complicated. The mechanics for these pug scenarios has always been to allow solo or duo queuing. If you're taking a full group and intentionally breaking it up to queue your group into pug, you're bypassing the intention of the game mode. If you have a full group, just queue for normal scenarios. If we get evidence that people are manipulating that mode to get a full group in they might find their accounts unable to queue scenarios for a while.

My problem is that all the noise about people that might be doing something isn't resulting in reports that GM's can investigate. I checked earlier today and there's been ZERO reports about premades in the DS queue. If you (as in the general playerbase) want GM's to enforce this game mode to run as intended, you have to report things accurately for us to investigate.

[eldriyth]

to reiterate again to the 'what if some members of the same guild just wanna play discordant at the same time' people... it's REALLY easy to check the killboard and see you all starting and finishing on the exact same sc...

If you see someone abusing the Discordant queue, report it with evidence to a GM. We've had zero reports about it so far, which might be an important datapoint for the conversation going on here.

Thanks for doing something about these clowns. These people are detrimental to the entire server.