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rmpl
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Re: AM/Shammy Healing

Post#61 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:53 am

Sulorie wrote:
rmpl wrote:
Sulorie wrote:This is a screenshot from ingame, where it is wrong.
Take database sites and build planer as reference.

@Tesq: You are right, I corrected it. You have to wait 0,4sec after gcd ends, when it is set here too 1,1sec.
https://gfycat.com/EmptyFarHadrosaurus

This looks like a 1.5 cooldown to you?
You recently made this gif?
5min ago.

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Re: AM/Shammy Healing

Post#62 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:05 am

rmpl wrote:
Sulorie wrote:
rmpl wrote: https://gfycat.com/EmptyFarHadrosaurus

This looks like a 1.5 cooldown to you?
You recently made this gif?
5min ago.
ROR is no reference how the game or its spells worked on live. ;)
Watch youtube or visit any class builder site.
Yes currently you can spam it. On live there was a slight delay due to cooldown.
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Tesq
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Re: AM/Shammy Healing

Post#63 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:37 am

all group heals are 2.5 cast time no CD appart dok/wp due the spam nature.
AM/Sh should have a cast time and an ap reduction due to meccanic which is why instead buff their skill you should first fix their meccanic

You would otherwise fix skills to then buff meccanic, to have then to tone down the skills/look at them.

Buf points generation is hardly a huge buff it concerm more the efficency which how they can sue stuff, if i were primary a sh/am player i would have ask, if not a rewamp, for a boost in points earning long time ago.
I alredy done my suggestion regarding meccanic but change too much stuff would only make problems in future. Foir exemple in other thread for AM, chage FE to cast on moving is not a big deal cos it's a skill that do not benefith from meccanic if not by ap cost reduction (which alredy does). So change it to cast on moving do not create problem for future meccanic fix.
But start changing ap point cost / or CD before have fixed the meccanic it just create a bounch of problems.
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Sigimund
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Re: AM/Shammy Healing

Post#64 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:47 pm

Tesq speaks wisdom.

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Azarael
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Re: AM/Shammy Healing

Post#65 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:52 pm

Sulorie wrote:ROR is no reference how the game or its spells worked on live. ;)
Watch youtube or visit any class builder site.
Yes currently you can spam it. On live there was a slight delay due to cooldown.
I'm sorry but if the client says "1s cast, no cooldown" the client is right.

Period.

That isn't RoR - that's the game client. It shows the correct castbar length no matter what you do, unless you send a valid modifier to it.

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roadkillrobin
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Re: AM/Shammy Healing

Post#66 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:53 pm

What about something like that was given to BO/SM due to they having bad mechanic?
And abillity with no GCD that switch all points in Mork to Gork or Gork to Mork with maybe 10 sec CD?
And the same for AM ofc
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Re: AM/Shammy Healing

Post#67 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:55 pm

roadkillrobin wrote:What about something like that was given to BO/SM due to they having bad mechanic?
And abillity with no GCD that switch all points in Mork to Gork or Gork to Mork with maybe 10 sec CD?
And the same for AM ofc
Mind. Blown.

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Re: AM/Shammy Healing

Post#68 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:31 pm

Penril wrote:
roadkillrobin wrote:What about something like that was given to BO/SM due to they having bad mechanic?
And abillity with no GCD that switch all points in Mork to Gork or Gork to Mork with maybe 10 sec CD?
And the same for AM ofc
Mind. Blown.
In a good or a bad way???
I really like my own sugestion here :D
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Nameless
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Re: AM/Shammy Healing

Post#69 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:15 pm

to be worth the mechanic need more work to be done. firstly need to be known what is the goal of the classes. What niche they will get. Will be possible to do both healing and dps or only one role at the time, etc.

The mechanic revamp is quite complicated matter that cant be done easielly and for sure not before lvl 40
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rmpl
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Re: AM/Shammy Healing

Post#70 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:36 pm

I'd give everything to play as dok with shaman "skin"

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