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Re: DPS (Grace) Warrior Priest

Post#61 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:00 am

sweetest wrote:AHEM

I honestly think the only thing Templars need is the ranged snare mirrored over from the DoK to the warrior priest. There are so many crazy fun melee toys the DoKs get that WPs get NOTHING even close to, for example

50% heal debuff on crit
a 5 pt tactic AP drain on their most important melee strike
another AP drain strike, this time a 13 pt mastery
ranged snare
drain str reduced str without using a tactic (wp needs greave of sigmar tactic)

the list goes on.

right now no melee on the server can beat me 1v1 except for 2 people i can think of off the top of my head, my damage is great - comparable to that of a marauder or white lion, my healing is excellent, sometimes i even outheal regular healers.

I have a theory on the people who are so opposed and so snarky when it comes to discussing dps WPs they just dismiss them as useless and unplayable, I think that they are former WP players who got flamed so hard for playing 2h, that they cracked under the pressure and accepted that they just can't play it well, so therefore if they can't do well with it NO ONE CAN HAHAHAHA!

anyway tl:dr mirror over the DoK ranged snare, don't change anything else.
It's been a while since I've seen a descent melee wp. Maybe I'll guardbot you some time? :)

@peterthepan3: useless even as riftbot. That's why you're so mad.
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Re: DPS (Grace) Warrior Priest

Post#62 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:04 am

Nishka wrote:
It's been a while since I've seen a descent melee wp. Maybe I'll guardbot you some time? :)

@peterthepan3: useless even as riftbot. That's why you're so mad.
Normally I am very friendly to everyone and will play with just about anyone.

However after seeing your posts on the forums the last few months I can safely say I do not like you at all and do not wish to play with you, Ever. Thanks for the offer though.
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Re: DPS (Grace) Warrior Priest

Post#63 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:04 am

I just find it amusing that you are still tolerated here, despite having been proven several times to be wrong/deliberately trying to stir and circulate rumours without empirical proofs. You are offering advice and criticism on classes you have never played, and are then trying to back it up with no proofs - just strawman arguments.
This is what annoys me, as well as several others I have noticed.
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Re: DPS (Grace) Warrior Priest

Post#64 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:20 am

peterthepan3 wrote:I just find it amusing that you are still tolerated here, despite having been proven several times to be wrong/deliberately trying to stir and circulate rumours without empirical proofs. You are offering advice and criticism on classes you have never played, and are then trying to back it up with no proofs - just strawman arguments.
This is what annoys me, as well as several others I have noticed.
Hmm... I've been playing the game since 2009 so I had enough time to play almost every class but choppa and slayer, because they're too ugly. For 6 years I've been playing both for and against we's, wp's wl's, marauders, chosens, shamans, sh's, maguses, kotbses, sm's doks etc. So I guess I have a lil bit of knowledge both how to fight as them and how to fight against them. And I like to help people, so if someone needs an advice, I try to help. Of course sometimes I make mistakes because I'm a dumb blonde it's been a while since the game was closed and some of my memories got vague.
But I understand the source of your agression: unfortunately, some people just can't tolerate when you say something negative or even positive (your case) about a class, because they consider themselves as ultimate experts and the final authority in all regarding that favorite class.
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Re: DPS (Grace) Warrior Priest

Post#65 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:27 am

Talk about the game, not each other.
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Re: DPS (Grace) Warrior Priest

Post#66 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:40 am

wargrimnir wrote:Talk about the game, not each other.
I've yet to see any discussion about the state of melee warrior-priests without it devolving into petty insults and over-competitive rage.

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Re: DPS (Grace) Warrior Priest

Post#67 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:40 am

Also i'm not sure if you guys realize, from reading the posts on the previous page, that divine assault already does avoid mitigation as it is Spirit dmg.

edit: and to change divine assault into 1 large heal would kill the class. Currently the way I play is I have cycle target bound to a convenient key, and while divine assaulting, I cycle targets to people who need healing, I can heal an upwards of 4 people for about ~ 800-1500 health depending on if i crit. OR i can just funnel all that burst healing into 1 person, which lets me bring them back to full life, pretty much gaurenteed if i can get the 3 second cast off.

many WPs do not do this with divine assault which is a huge difference in playing a useful 2h wp and a useless 2h wp
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Re: DPS (Grace) Warrior Priest

Post#68 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:48 am

sweetest wrote:Also i'm not sure if you guys realize, from reading the posts on the previous page, that divine assault already does avoid mitigation as it is Spirit dmg.

edit: and to change divine assault into 1 large heal would kill the class. Currently the way I play is I have cycle target bound to a convenient key, and while divine assaulting, I cycle targets to people who need healing, I can heal an upwards of 4 people for about ~ 800-1500 health depending on if i crit. OR i can just funnel all that burst healing into 1 person, which lets me bring them back to full life, pretty much gaurenteed if i can get the 3 second cast off.

many WPs do not do this with divine assault which is a huge difference in playing a useful 2h wp and a useless 2h wp
I've run into Marauders and Choppas mitigating 180 damage off a 279 divine assault. As for the swapping heal, it is useful. I've used it a lot personally, but I'd rather a more reliable single-shot divine assault than rolling the dice if the channel will actually function properly. If they can remedy the issue, I'd not change a thing, but the issue still stands.

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Re: DPS (Grace) Warrior Priest

Post#69 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:55 am

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I've run into Marauders and Choppas mitigating 180 damage off a 279 divine assault. As for the swapping heal, it is useful. I've used it a lot personally, but I'd rather a more reliable single-shot divine assault than rolling the dice if the channel will actually function properly. If they can remedy the issue, I'd not change a thing, but the issue still stands.
I get a lot of upcoming WPs messaging me in game saying similar things about divine assault saying it's interrupting itself a lot. I have never really had this problem. in the very beginning of t2 it was more prevalent maybe?

perhaps I just got used to it automatically and don't cause it myself anymore but, divine assault works fine for me, i love it and i wouldn't change it at all.

and to the people mitigating your dmg - make sure you use shatter enchantment every time its lit up because more than likely they have a resists buff that's giving them ~200 spirit resist, so 1 shatter and your divine assault does ~20% more dmg
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Re: DPS (Grace) Warrior Priest

Post#70 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:57 am

sweetest wrote: I get a lot of upcoming WPs messaging me in game saying similar things about divine assault saying it's interrupting itself a lot. I have never really had this problem. in the very beginning of t2 it was more prevalent maybe?

perhaps I just got used to it automatically and don't cause it myself anymore but, divine assault works fine for me, i love it and i wouldn't change it at all except maybe make it scale a little better off str.

and to the people mitigating your dmg - make sure you use shatter enchantment every time its lit up because more than likely they have a resists buff that's giving them ~200 spirit resist, so 1 shatter and your divine assault does ~20% more dmg
I do, still notice an obscene level of mitigation at times. Divine assault doesn't often bug, but I have had at times it'll do the first swing and just cancel itself out.

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