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Arteker616
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Re: Warhammer Total War

Post#71 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:17 pm

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Sejanus
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Re: Warhammer Total War

Post#72 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:28 pm

I don't know why people always complain about pricing. You get what you pay for and all games are entertainment. Your lucky if you can get a hamburger for the price of that DLC and I guarantee you it'll turn to **** long before the game does. I enjoy the game quite a bit, even paid 2 bucks for blood. Anytime I'm on, I'm usually hosting a RoR multi-player match.
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bloodi
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Re: Warhammer Total War

Post#73 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:34 pm

Sejanus wrote: Your lucky if you can get a hamburger for the price of that DLC
I can actually get like 8. Good ones.

Mcdonads here has an offer of 1 euro for a burger, so i can get 17 of those **** ones.

If i go to the grocery store and buy bread and hamburgers myself, it goes up to like 25.

People complain about pricing because, well, i even linked some guy showing exactly what you get for the price of 1/3 of the base game, a single race with less content than any of the races already ingame and with the same mechanics the races ingame have.

What i dont know is why there is always someone that no matter how expensive it is, will try to argue that is fine.

Actually i do know why but lets forget about that.

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Sejanus
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Re: Warhammer Total War

Post#74 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:48 pm

And people that argue that games should be free and should have unlimited content, and should be perfect the way they want it are the reason why games like WAR are dead. You don't want to support a game? Fine. Don't play it. If you can't afford 20 bucks for a DLC then you probably shouldn't be playing it anyways.
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Re: Warhammer Total War

Post#75 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:55 pm

Ah yes, strawman is also a friend of mine.
Sejanus wrote:And people that argue that games should be free and should have unlimited content, and should be perfect the way they want it are the reason why games like WAR are dead.
Lol. That was hilarious. Do you have a newsletter i can subscribe to for more of this riveting content?
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Re: Warhammer Total War

Post#76 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:57 pm

First time I'm going to have to root for bloodi in an argument. :D
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Re: Warhammer Total War

Post#77 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:01 pm

Sejanus wrote:And people that argue that games should be free and should have unlimited content, and should be perfect the way they want it are the reason why games like WAR are dead. You don't want to support a game? Fine. Don't play it. If you can't afford 20 bucks for a DLC then you probably shouldn't be playing it anyways.
People actually expected a lot more from this game, as it uses a license of a universe that is vastly expansive and intricate. A lot of people didn't feel 60 bucks was the price to be paid, if the game itself only allows you to play 4 factions (excluding the pre-order Chaos army here, as it'd only add insult to injury). To charge an amount for a DLC that does not feel as if it's deserving of such a price, while implyimg there is a a lot more similar DLC on the way, is going to end up making the 60 dollar base game go up to about a hundred for the full experience, coming months later. I decided to support CA, yet only paid 40 bucks for a CD key, since it did NOT justify a 60 dollar price tag. Especially not with all the bugs and game-breaking bullshit I've come across so far. Almost made me want to refund, twice.

As a consumer, you have a right to demand a certain standard to justify a demanded purchase price. Especially in the gaming industry, the consumer feels more and more taken advantage of; left without an actual free choice in the matter as these DLCs keep degrading as their price only increases. Of course people always want more for less, but there are examples of people willing to pay much more for a certain thing which a game will never have. Even on this server, people are willing to pay while not having to.

"if you can't afford it, you shouldn't be playing it anyway" - this is why piracy exists. To determine whether something is worth paying for, to play. People don't want to support certain game developers, and mostly publishers, since they are the ones dictating the same prices for less content.
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Re: Warhammer Total War

Post#78 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:12 pm

RyanMakara wrote:
Sejanus wrote:And people that argue that games should be free and should have unlimited content, and should be perfect the way they want it are the reason why games like WAR are dead. You don't want to support a game? Fine. Don't play it. If you can't afford 20 bucks for a DLC then you probably shouldn't be playing it anyways.
People actually expected a lot more from this game, as it uses a license of a universe that is vastly expansive and intricate. A lot of people didn't feel 60 bucks was the price to be paid, if the game itself only allows you to play 4 factions (excluding the pre-order Chaos army here, as it'd only add insult to injury). To charge an amount for a DLC that does not feel as if it's deserving of such a price, while implyimg there is a a lot more similar DLC on the way, is going to end up making the 60 dollar base game go up to about a hundred for the full experience, coming months later. I decided to support CA, yet only paid 40 bucks for a CD key, since it did NOT justify a 60 dollar price tag. Especially not with all the bugs and game-breaking bullshit I've come across so far. Almost made me want to refund, twice.

As a consumer, you have a right to demand a certain standard to justify a demanded purchase price. Especially in the gaming industry, the consumer feels more and more taken advantage of; left without an actual free choice in the matter as these DLCs keep degrading as their price only increases. Of course people always want more for less, but there are examples of people willing to pay much more for a certain thing which a game will never have. Even on this server, people are willing to pay while not having to.

"if you can't afford it, you shouldn't be playing it anyway" - this is why piracy exists. To determine whether something is worth paying for, to play. People don't want to support certain game developers, and mostly publishers, since they are the ones dictating the same prices for less content.
Ryan! I told you not to buy Total War games on release! ALWAYS wait at least one year.
They will get a lot of DLC and Fan Made Mods later, which make the overall experience much better . Also They are full with Bugs in the beginning.

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Sejanus
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Re: Warhammer Total War

Post#79 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:22 pm

Well how is it different then the people that play this server that demand updates and that the server stay up? You tell them the same thing. This is the only warhammer you get and you'll be back. I'll agree the WH universe gets wasted a lot, but what else would you do? Pirate it? Sure. But then the matter of cost doesn't matter. It's not like they'll lower the costs, it's not like they'll change their business models because people think it's not worth that much. There's no haggling. It's either you buy it or you don't.

I'd pay twice as much for the dlc, not because it's worth it, but because numbers matter and if a warhammer game is more successful then another in the same genre then the likelyhood of more warhammer games being made in the future goes up.
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Re: Warhammer Total War

Post#80 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:36 pm

You pose it as a dichotomy where we have two choices, pay more than what the dlc is worth and get more content on the future or find it too expensive, not pay for it and then we will not have warhammer games ever again.

Maybe a third option exist where if the sales of that dlc are not good, they will rethink their prices and the content they offfer in their dlcs.

You are basically proposing that if someone gets a hold of all sources of fresh water in the world and says "here, pay 24 brazillions for this glass of water or there is not going to be more water anymore for you or anyone" then its fine, because we all want more water, we better pay now.

In summary, you are the reason why we cant have nice things. You get peed on and you are glad that is raining.

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