[Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

[roadkillrobin]

I personally don't think YSMBD is very good atm. There arn't really any good M4 except for the tank archetype one. Wich is the reason you generally slot this tactic for tbh. But it isnt availible until rank 40 so. The M3 is quit nice and might be worth slotting the tactic for if we had acess to it. But we don't.

[TenTonHammer]

Does no one like distracting bellow?

Halving a bws, slayer etc dmg is really good...

[roadkillrobin]

Small Radius, 9 targets max, and if they are spread out it does almoast nothung.

[Penril]

Small Radius, 9 targets max, and if they are spread out it does almoast nothung.

How is 9 targets considered a bad thing? Seems you are talking strictly about RvR with AAO against the zerg since SC's have 12 (18 in BFP) at most (and even then M3 is awesome for pushing your enemies: gives your group a safe 10 seconds window). Also, all coordinated melee trains will stay close to each other so it is easy to apply M3 on them.

I got to M1 in 30 secs, M2 in 50 and M3 in 130 without YSMBD. With the tactic, it took me 6, 15 and 30 secs respectively. This let's me Champ Challenge someone immediately, or use M3 if the Melee train makes it to my backlines pretty early in the fight, or have Shield Wall up whenever i need it. YSMBD is an awesome tactic, imho.

[Dreadspectre]

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=bo; ... 1:;0:0:0:0:

How would this build work using a 2H?

I think you'd have to run Da' Toughest for your War bellow as it's the only one that procs off any attacks(Biggest says melee only so I'm assuming Waaagh wouldn't trigger it and the other relies on you BEING hit).

Between Waaagh, Big Swing and Da' Big Un you should be hitting quite a few targets as long as you're in the thick of things and have lots of targets to proc a War Bellow on for Loudmouth yes?

Is there an internal CD on how often Toughest can proc? It doesn't say anything in the tooltip.

[roadkillrobin]

Toughest can only proc aslong as you don't have the buff up. No point using 2hander for Big Un, WAAAGH hits harder coz it doesn't hit against armor.

[Dreadspectre]

Damn...that's a shame. Loudmouth looks good on paper but if you can't proc War bellows more than every 8-10 seconds it's pretty garbage.

[Jaycub]

Does the black orc's ability to deal damage completely hinge on having tree hit combo in your build? Or does it get better in t4? Seems like my rotation is getting carried by the extremely high base damage of the skill and no matter how much str/ws I have playing the build with the AoE snare has just pitiful damage.

[TenTonHammer]

You dont "need" THC to dps

its just one of the class's best dps abilities

if your going a bit of the utility route with big brawlin and what not you dont need THC

[Shadowgurke]

Yes, losing THC means you lose a lot of damage. That is why at the current levelcap I would be careful to consider BO a dps tank. If you want more damage you would probably take YMM and THC, which I personally dislike but it's up to you if you want the damage