WH vs. WE

[Orontes]

What's the sense of the wise on the comparison of the Witch Hunter vs. Witch Elf? Is one better than the other? If so, how so?

[dansari]

I'm sure this will be a thoughtful, friendly discussion.

[daniilpb]

[Twohandernoob]

Witch hunters are a bit better alone than WEs, WEs are better in grps than WH. Esp with all those destro tanks.

Wh vs WE encounters same gear/skill and not some specific duel spec favours WH

Literally cant wait for rest of thread to unfold

[Aurandilaz]

WH has undefendable BurnAwayLies for good burst, wears pointy hats. Witch Elf has lots of spikes and shows more skin.

Many Witch Elves run the Frenzied Mayhem tactic so they get more critical rate and avoid finishers. Meanwhile Witch Hunters kinda need to use finishers to get their Bullet procs out, meaning either Abso spam or bursting down gobbos with BaL. Both classes kinda have to run the right tree for Heartseeker/Pistolwhip Knockdowns and the 7point critical damage increaser tactic.
Goblin pets might smell a stealthed WH, same goes with White Lion pets smelling a stealthed WE because they reek of blood or something.
Both classes suffer somewhat from mobility issues, AE/DA are good for punting yourself away but the rest of the mdps have Charge which is better for actually chasing down targets.

Atm I'd say WH is slightly better off, due to undefendable BAL and WE finishers all feeling somewhat meh. Then there is the question of stuff like Subju weapons, with WE having access to 1 dmg proc and WH getting double dmg procs out. And some extra annoyances like WL pets sniffing at you breaking stealth or BWs ignoring your Disrupt Elixir, but I guess WHs suffer from the sneaky goblins as much due to their RunAway speed procs. And apparently WE Kiss procs were ninjanerfed and now have ICD.

Both classes can kill things, and with proper group can kill lot of things. Neither of them has a long life expectancy due to having light armour and facing medium armoured or heavy armoured frontline classes, but that's how its always been, less armor means more dmg, well, in most class cases. (only a special snowflake medium armoured class can get better burst than a well played WE/WH)

[bichka]

In short :
WE - better AP management(on live AP tactic was broken, on ROR it's works like description said), FP spam
WH - better finishers + uber m4 for long battles, EW for damage and huge 3-4(ini bullet) stat debuff.
WE - ranged KD, WB as "finisher".
WE have better disrupt cauldron placement in carrier tree.

BAL is cleanable and useless vs proper group unless your team is able to put lot of dots to cover it. But in PUGs nobody care anyway.

Both classes is fun, don't listen whiners, but for me WH look like finished class, while WE is kinda silly after some nerfs in past.

[catholicism198]

In short :
WE - better AP management(on live AP tactic was broken, on ROR it's works like description said), FP spam
WH - better finishers + uber m4 for long battles, EW for damage and huge 3-4(ini bullet) stat debuff.
WE - ranged KD, WB as "finisher".
WE have better disrupt cauldron placement in carrier tree.

BAL is cleanable and useless vs proper group unless your team is able to put lot of dots to cover it. But in PUGs nobody care anyway.

Both classes is fun, don't listen whiners, but for me WH look like finished class, while WE is kinda silly after some nerfs in past.

WH has a ranged KD as well.

[Fallenkezef]

WH are religous sociopaths that wear REALLY cool hats.

WE are religous sociopaths in sexy bikinis.

Pretty equal in the rule of cool tbh.

[roadkillrobin]

I think Frenzied Mayhem and Inquisiters Fury are pretty equal when it comes performance as neither class can't AoE for **** these days.

The classes are pretty equall on paper. When paired up with specific classes WH gets slightly better tho due to order just straight up having better support.

[roadkillrobin]

BAL needs target to face away so its basicly undefendeble unless applied with FP.