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Lion1986
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Re: How to win Scenarios

Post#61 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:08 am

Rorvid wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:25 pm nice summary, im sure not everyone knows all of the opposing sides healers career names though, with my IB i area KB the front liners on my way to their healers, just harassing them can be enough can put them out of the immediate skirmish to do the job,
it can be frustrating being stuck between attacking their healers when our healers are under attack themsleves
pro tip: swap target after a burst
Healers got aoe heals but they cannot keep everone up 100%all times if precisely swapped target with healdebuff on it.

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Re: How to win Scenarios

Post#62 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:50 am

Rorvid wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:25 pm nice summary, im sure not everyone knows all of the opposing sides healers career names though, with my IB i area KB the front liners on my way to their healers, just harassing them can be enough can put them out of the immediate skirmish to do the job,
it can be frustrating being stuck between attacking their healers when our healers are under attack themsleves
AE Knockback is a good start, here are some other pro tips on the way to the top:

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Tyrex2017
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Re: How to win Scenarios

Post#63 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:19 am

IIGuardianII wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:08 pm
Short version:

- Stay as group
- Stay on Objective
- Focus healers
- Objective(s) > Personal stats
As a frontline healer, I pray for the destros focus on me, rofl. Sure bro, target me first and you ll win. Good joke.

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Re: How to win Scenarios

Post#64 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:53 am

thanks guys, nice warbits =D
sadly less than an hour after the server hiccuped last night, the inside of my laptop ignited, fried something, stank the place out and is currently in the repair shop =/ amnot even sure if its salvagable atm or if ihave to buy a new PC

edit/ if someone could pass that on to Scum in-game please, as he was leading the WB ramming the keep door when my laptop blew, the charcater i was on was a chosen called Rortash, thanks

Cqengi
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Re: How to win Scenarios

Post#65 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:34 am

IIGuardianII wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:41 pm
Cqengi wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:47 am
IIGuardianII wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:33 am

LOL You obviously can't read, no one disagreed we merely discussed the nuances and we all agreed with one another, no adaptations were made, just clarifications. But go ahead keep living in your false reality, you are the only one telling yourself blue is green.
No disagreements? No adaptations? I'd check again

Good thing your original post and comments are here for you and everyone to look at how it was laid out originally, so again, because it seems this key part is slipping over you - you stated how to play in an sc in a very basic manner and got told what the reality of it was, one either accepts that or becomes outcast, you grindily accepted therefore you adapted. Your edit disclaimer at the end and how it basically excludes or writes off everything you said except for like a t1 sc experience perspective proves what im saying. Yea maybe you copped a bit of heat yea is what is that is a reality, without it you cant see in the dark

Is usually not a lack of understanding sc mechanics or standing next to your group that causes losses or beelining for inanimate flag objects, this is inherent to most people and if not is immediately learned.

The knowledge that people tend to lack most from what ive seen personally; is the advanced knowledge and experience that takes a lot longer to put down in writing accurately as a guide because like you now know or have been told there are so so many variables youd almost be writing a book, is why there is no clear cut way to do rvr/sc other than starting from very vague general guidelines youve heard from other people and then letting your own human logic, and skill development take over to fill the holes, this is how a meta is created. Play the game
Nope, I made no adaptations, I did however make clarifications as to what I meant and what I was addressing. You should probably look up the definitions of both those words, adapting, and clarifying. I never once disagreed with someone merely clarified the nuances and audience that I was addressing. Now, there were a few people who made a post that added more in depth, nuances, and scenarios that I did not address and I made those CLARIFICATIONS to those people concerning the intnent, nuances, and audience that the original post was addressing. Thanks for playing try again later.

Edit: Sooooo should I have made a better effort to clarify certain things in the original post yeah for sure... but my point still stands, and yours topples like a house of cards.
I dont need to anymore mate you good at shooting yourself

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Valarion
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Re: How to win Scenarios

Post#66 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:18 pm

MedV wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:36 pm Target order is usually Dps first ! They go down fast and relieve pressure on your team.

Make sure the dps is unguarded first of course. Otherwise its better to focus healers and test their tank rotation guard skills.
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IIGuardianII
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Re: How to win Scenarios

Post#67 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:58 pm

Tyrex2017 wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:19 am
IIGuardianII wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:08 pm
Short version:

- Stay as group
- Stay on Objective
- Focus healers
- Objective(s) > Personal stats
As a frontline healer, I pray for the destros focus on me, rofl. Sure bro, target me first and you ll win. Good joke.
So I know I didn't clarify this in the original post, but I did make an edit to clarify the audience I was initially intending to address. (Which you left out in the quote :P ) I assume you are addressing focusing a healer in late game where you have damage mitigation skills, guard skill from your tanks, etc. which can make it extremely difficult to focus a healer unless everyone on the opposing force just nukes you. In which case you are totally correct.
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IIGuardianII
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Re: How to win Scenarios

Post#68 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:59 pm

Cqengi wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:34 am
IIGuardianII wrote: Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:41 pm
Cqengi wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:47 am

No disagreements? No adaptations? I'd check again

Good thing your original post and comments are here for you and everyone to look at how it was laid out originally, so again, because it seems this key part is slipping over you - you stated how to play in an sc in a very basic manner and got told what the reality of it was, one either accepts that or becomes outcast, you grindily accepted therefore you adapted. Your edit disclaimer at the end and how it basically excludes or writes off everything you said except for like a t1 sc experience perspective proves what im saying. Yea maybe you copped a bit of heat yea is what is that is a reality, without it you cant see in the dark

Is usually not a lack of understanding sc mechanics or standing next to your group that causes losses or beelining for inanimate flag objects, this is inherent to most people and if not is immediately learned.

The knowledge that people tend to lack most from what ive seen personally; is the advanced knowledge and experience that takes a lot longer to put down in writing accurately as a guide because like you now know or have been told there are so so many variables youd almost be writing a book, is why there is no clear cut way to do rvr/sc other than starting from very vague general guidelines youve heard from other people and then letting your own human logic, and skill development take over to fill the holes, this is how a meta is created. Play the game
Nope, I made no adaptations, I did however make clarifications as to what I meant and what I was addressing. You should probably look up the definitions of both those words, adapting, and clarifying. I never once disagreed with someone merely clarified the nuances and audience that I was addressing. Now, there were a few people who made a post that added more in depth, nuances, and scenarios that I did not address and I made those CLARIFICATIONS to those people concerning the intnent, nuances, and audience that the original post was addressing. Thanks for playing try again later.

Edit: Sooooo should I have made a better effort to clarify certain things in the original post yeah for sure... but my point still stands, and yours topples like a house of cards.
I dont need to anymore mate you good at shooting yourself
Right back at you brother, enjoy your false reality... :lol:

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Spoiler:
Destruction:
P-GuardianChosen-Chosen
P-GuardianShift-Marauder
P-GuardianDoom-Magus
P-GuardianZealot-Zealot
GuardianWAAAGH-Choppa
GuardianWitch-Witch Elf
Order:
P-GuardianBreakr-Iron Breaker
P-MadMac-Slayer
P-GuardianTinker-Engineer
P-MiLadyLavender-Rune Priest
GuardianLion-White Lion
GuardianHunter-Witch Hunter
GuardianMartyr-Warrior Priest

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Re: How to win Scenarios

Post#69 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:49 pm

Arbich wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:50 am
AE Knockback is a good start, here are some other pro tips on the way to the top:
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