[SW] ASW need some love.

[Falconoflight]

ASW is the most useless spec in the game, its outperformed even on its best brecket 6v6, and in mass pvp, city and even pve its a pile of garbage, so its need some love with burst damage\utility.
something like:
- give back third strike on crosscut but make in both in vangance and not just physicall attack.
OR
- swift strikes heal you for 50% of damage done.

I know that class is still popular and thats why suffers "elf taxes", but its literally 2 much, every single class is much better.

[Gloubidou]

ASW is the most useless spec in the game, its outperformed even on its best brecket 6v6, and in mass pvp, city and even pve its a pile of garbage, so its need some love with burst damage\utility.
something like:
- give back third strike on crosscut but make in both in vangance and not just physicall attack.
OR
- swift strikes heal you for 50% of damage done.

I know that class is still popular and thats why suffers "elf taxes", but its literally 2 much, every single class is much better.

The whole SW class need love, not only ASW

[Falconoflight]

ASW is the most useless spec in the game, its outperformed even on its best brecket 6v6, and in mass pvp, city and even pve its a pile of garbage, so its need some love with burst damage\utility.
something like:
- give back third strike on crosscut but make in both in vangance and not just physicall attack.
OR
- swift strikes heal you for 50% of damage done.

I know that class is still popular and thats why suffers "elf taxes", but its literally 2 much, every single class is much better.

The whole SW class need love, not only ASW

Maybe, but i dont know exacty about what range sw wants, i main asw and i know how to fix asw, do a post about other specs here or in other thred.

[lemao]

ASW is the most useless spec in the game, its outperformed even on its best brecket 6v6, and in mass pvp, city and even pve its a pile of garbage, so its need some love with burst damage\utility.
something like:
- give back third strike on crosscut but make in both in vangance and not just physicall attack.
OR
- swift strikes heal you for 50% of damage done.

I know that class is still popular and thats why suffers "elf taxes", but its literally 2 much, every single class is much better.

Asw definetely doesn´t need the third strike on crusscut back.
It was HEAVILY overtuned and op back then.

The leap could change some rework tho and maybe a snare immunity ability would help, other than that class is totally fine paired with a wl.

[squiggastolemybike]

ASW is definitely worse than standard melee classes for several reasons:
- ASW doesn't have snare immunity tool (having to wait for 'Focused Mind' and spend a morale is a poor option).
- ASW doesn't have AoE detaunt, where a melee character gets trained and can spam AoE detaunt button while knocked down for detaunt to trigger as soon as possible and press potions after - the ASW can detaunt only one person which also has to be clicked or tabbed which can be rather difficult in itself.
- ASW's dash animation is too slow, still worse than WL's nerfed pounce.

'Crosscut' was in the right spot when it was doing 2 ticks of spirit damage, there is still no explanation why was it overbuffed when nobody asked for a buff and later overnerfed. But the real problem of this ability is that it doesn't stack with 'Arcing Swing' and is thus redundant.
'Swift Strikes' do mediocre damage, and therefore this ability is not really used for damage in group environment (i'm sure soloers would love to heal themselves with this tool as the thread owner proposed, but it is a group based game).
Devs also forgot to return Broadhead Arrow to Assault Spec after they removed BHA stacking.

[Falconoflight]

ASW is definitely worse than standard melee classes for several reasons:
- ASW doesn't have snare immunity tool (having to wait for 'Focused Mind' and spend a morale is a poor option).
- ASW doesn't have AoE detaunt, where a melee character gets trained and can spam AoE detaunt button while knocked down for detaunt to trigger as soon as possible and press potions after - the ASW can detaunt only one person which also has to be clicked or tabbed which can be rather difficult in itself.
- ASW's dash animation is too slow, still worse than WL's nerfed pounce.

'Crosscut' was in the right spot when it was doing 2 ticks of spirit damage, there is still no explanation why was it overbuffed when nobody asked for a buff and later overnerfed. But the real problem of this ability is that it doesn't stack with 'Arcing Swing' and is thus redundant.
'Swift Strikes' do mediocre damage, and therefore this ability is not really used for damage in group environment (i'm sure soloers would love to heal themselves with this tool as the thread owner proposed, but it is a group based game).
Devs also forgot to return Broadhead Arrow to Assault Spec after they removed BHA stacking.

ASW doesnt have anything, its not even versatile cause sw as class have pretty low damage so its melee who cant fight melee range who cant fight range, have no mobility, no survivability, no dps, mediocre burst, bet stamina sustain, no heals, no basically nothing, every single spec is better in everything.

[Florian90210]

I think SW and SH should get invisibility ability and make it work only when stand still.
Also SW should be able to make really good parry stats, like BG or SM and have Riposte tactic.

[lemao]

ASW is definitely worse than standard melee classes for several reasons:
- ASW doesn't have snare immunity tool (having to wait for 'Focused Mind' and spend a morale is a poor option).
- ASW doesn't have AoE detaunt, where a melee character gets trained and can spam AoE detaunt button while knocked down for detaunt to trigger as soon as possible and press potions after - the ASW can detaunt only one person which also has to be clicked or tabbed which can be rather difficult in itself.
- ASW's dash animation is too slow, still worse than WL's nerfed pounce.

'Crosscut' was in the right spot when it was doing 2 ticks of spirit damage, there is still no explanation why was it overbuffed when nobody asked for a buff and later overnerfed. But the real problem of this ability is that it doesn't stack with 'Arcing Swing' and is thus redundant.
'Swift Strikes' do mediocre damage, and therefore this ability is not really used for damage in group environment (i'm sure soloers would love to heal themselves with this tool as the thread owner proposed, but it is a group based game).
Devs also forgot to return Broadhead Arrow to Assault Spec after they removed BHA stacking.

ASW doesnt have anything, its not even versatile cause sw as class have pretty low damage so its melee who cant fight melee range who cant fight range, have no mobility, no survivability, no dps, mediocre burst, bet stamina sustain, no heals, no basically nothing, every single spec is better in everything.

Asw has insanely strong burst, it´s mobility is meh but coud be easily fixed with reworking the leap/adding a snare breaker.
I cant comprehend how you say ASW has a low burst rotation when it´s simply not true.
The class is not nearly as bad as you make it to seem. Here i list you again the pros and cons for ASW :

Pros :
-Really strong burst, especially with wispering winds from a SM (spammable Brutal Assault)
-Decent Armor in ASW stance
-Amazing HD without CD
-Meele and range KD
-Synergies perfectly with a WL
-Amazing tactics like crit chance increase, crit dmg increase by 50 % and flat 15 % dmg increase in meele range.

Cons:
-No snarebreaker
-Leap/Teleport is scuffed compared to WL pounce.
-Singletarget detaunt compared to AOE.

"Fixing" all of the points made under Cons is going to heavily overbuff this class in my opinion. So it´s hard to balance.
The leap should be fixed for sure and be made similar to the WL one. If you also give that class a rootbreaker with snare immunity and
give it an AOE detaunt on top of it it´s only "weakness" left is having no armor debuff, which is usually already provided by a WL anyways.

[ibfury]

Soon someone disoriented will ask: What about Rampage?

[Falconoflight]

ASW is definitely worse than standard melee classes for several reasons:
- ASW doesn't have snare immunity tool (having to wait for 'Focused Mind' and spend a morale is a poor option).
- ASW doesn't have AoE detaunt, where a melee character gets trained and can spam AoE detaunt button while knocked down for detaunt to trigger as soon as possible and press potions after - the ASW can detaunt only one person which also has to be clicked or tabbed which can be rather difficult in itself.
- ASW's dash animation is too slow, still worse than WL's nerfed pounce.

'Crosscut' was in the right spot when it was doing 2 ticks of spirit damage, there is still no explanation why was it overbuffed when nobody asked for a buff and later overnerfed. But the real problem of this ability is that it doesn't stack with 'Arcing Swing' and is thus redundant.
'Swift Strikes' do mediocre damage, and therefore this ability is not really used for damage in group environment (i'm sure soloers would love to heal themselves with this tool as the thread owner proposed, but it is a group based game).
Devs also forgot to return Broadhead Arrow to Assault Spec after they removed BHA stacking.

ASW doesnt have anything, its not even versatile cause sw as class have pretty low damage so its melee who cant fight melee range who cant fight range, have no mobility, no survivability, no dps, mediocre burst, bet stamina sustain, no heals, no basically nothing, every single spec is better in everything.

Asw has insanely strong burst, it´s mobility is meh but coud be easily fixed with reworking the leap/adding a snare breaker.
I cant comprehend how you say ASW has a low burst rotation when it´s simply not true.
The class is not nearly as bad as you make it to seem. Here i list you again the pros and cons for ASW :

Pros :
-Really strong burst, especially with wispering winds from a SM (spammable Brutal Assault)
-Decent Armor in ASW stance
-Amazing HD without CD
-Meele and range KD
-Synergies perfectly with a WL
-Amazing tactics like crit chance increase, crit dmg increase by 50 % and flat 15 % dmg increase in meele range.

Cons:
-No snarebreaker
-Leap/Teleport is scuffed compared to WL pounce.
-Singletarget detaunt compared to AOE.

"Fixing" all of the points made under Cons is going to heavily overbuff this class in my opinion. So it´s hard to balance.
The leap should be fixed for sure and be made similar to the WL one. If you also give that class a rootbreaker with snare immunity and
give it an AOE detaunt on top of it it´s only "weakness" left is having no armor debuff, which is usually already provided by a WL anyways.

1. asw burst in 1 target comparable with aoe burst of slayer in aoe and lower than wl burst.
2. decent armor with tons of abilities who hit spirit\ignore armor + low hp, no detaunt, no real survivability abilities.
5. Wl better synergy with Wl so what? nerf wl buff sw lol, wl is much better and easier version of asw without asw cons.
6. amazing tactic what maces already no survivability class dissapear even more instantly, flan 15% of increase melee dps as tactic what are lower than other classes have WITHOUT suh tactic.

basically all you say its a placebo, even in only viable brecket for asw - 6v6 asw is not really better than slayer, choppa, dps shama\wp \disc but worse in everything else. Like its hilariously how everybody say that asw is "good" at forum and in game NO ONE wants asw in any side of the game if they really wants to win. because all you say its just hypocricy and you know it - its weak, clunky and have no any good side, yea it have burst - once per 20 sec u can do a little burst damage but u have no mobility, no survivability, no dps, no heal, no good debuffs u basially have nothing but clunky shadowstep who makes you even in more distance of you target if it moves kek. Its basically easy to know who is **** - this one who doesnt needed, party give place to conq 40\40 slayer\wl over 70rr asw in any weather, as roamer asw is bad too because in preacticly only wh\dps shamas\chos roaming in destro side and all of them r@pe asw with a smile, only real place of asw is nonorganyzed vs nonorganyzed 6\6 because even in best for asw brecket u will focused and killed cause of lack of survivability and massdetount. Like why you even lieing? For what reasons? Want more free rpoints for killing sw or something?
the only reason this class is popular because its looking badass, thats it.
P.S. "only weakness is no armor debuff what provided by wl" LOLWHAT? Ok just give armor debuff to asw and take it from wl, what the problem? wl will be happy because "nothing will change"?)) Or maybe dps shama will loose all his healings because he will be healed by healers? Like what are u even talking about? CLASS HAVE LOW POWER BUDGET, period, thats why it need to be buffed. Imagine party with 10 asw vs party with 10 maras\chopas freaking anything, whi will win? Thats right. asw have NO PLACE IN THE GAME at all and if its not a problem to you - just delete this abomination who are "wery good" at forum but no one wants to play with but really like to play against X D