Remove GTDC

[CountTalabecland]

This ability has ruined playing Order. Just a constant farm/spam of this stupid ability

Give Choppa ID and rampage and return this game to some semblance of fun.

[Paxsanarion]

If you think there are few Order tanks now.....there would be none if that happened

[Belanoite]

GTdC is a broken ability tha must be removed. It doesn't respect the range, when you are pulled, the collision keeps you in the air and when you're in the air, you're unable to do anything. It's a very bugged ability and devs should have removed it years ago already.

[Belanoite]

If you think there are few Order tanks now.....there would be none if that happened

I disagree. Giving Choppa Rampage, tanker will be much more needed. Now, what can a tank do against Gtdc than get pulled and bounce in the air bc collision doesn't let them hit the ground?

[tazdingo]

yes, but remove ramp too, both are stupid. mirror ID and call it a day, both classes will still be strong enough

If you think there are few Order tanks now.....there would be none if that happened

I disagree. Giving Choppa Rampage, tanker will be much more needed. Now, what can a tank do against Gtdc than get pulled and bounce in the air bc collision doesn't let them hit the ground?

tanks are a liability vs rampage

[Aethilmar]

GTDC is buggy and needs to respect terrain. I can only assume they'd have fixed it by now if they could so I'm guessing it can't be fixed.

HOWEVER, that said, the ability itself is fine (when it works as designed) and is mostly dangerous to solos (in particular ranged solos). So if folks really, really, really, really hate it so much they should consider doing the sensible thing and get off their Legolas wannabes and lazor-AMs and roll a tank. If Order replaced half their mediocre rdps with mediocre tanks, this wouldn't be a recurring discussion since tanks are the counter play to GTDC.

Side note:
You can change the camera settings such that you no longer get the "spin" effect that happens with GTDC.

[Sulorie]

Side note:
You can change the camera settings such that you no longer get the "spin" effect that happens with GTDC.

Where and how you do that?

[lumpi33]

In a game where melee aoe can be stacked unlimited an ability pulling you into that meat grinder is pure cancer.

Not only that. It gives 3 actions with only one button press. Movement speed, high aoe damage and multiple pulls. I don't think there is any other ability that gives 3 powerful things with only 1 button press. After the gcd nerf this is better than ever.

From what I have seen is that GTDC used to be on a 30s cooldown. Now it is 20s and with chop faster 15s I guess. So you can use it twice as often as in the initial design.

Other classes were nerfed without compensation. Ranged dps lost their 100% moral damage boost. Range was crippled to 65ft in many cases. SW lost BHA in assault stance and dot stacking in skirmishing. All without compensation.

That GTDC pull needs to go. Im also for a nerf of slayers. Both classes are too strong but GTDC is an annoyance that is far beyond everything.

Remember about the BHA stacking nerf? The reason for that was "it is just no fun for the receiving end". And BHA stacking was only a thing in forts. Then what the hell about GTDC. Order has to live with that garbage for far too long. It is not fun at all for the receiving end.

It's also bugged and unfair. Why? It should have a minimum range, should be defendable, shouldn't spin the camera around, shouldn't allow knock downs afterwards, shouldn't pull you on top of the puller like magnet pulls and should be combined with a strong aoe damage ability and if there is such powerful ability then both sides should at least have it. So much wrong with that thing.

Magnet, bombing and stacking of ranged channeled aoe were all nerfed for a reason. Yet that melee aoe stacking and pulling garbage remains untouched. FOR YEARS NOW. Why?

Premades know exactly how unfair and powerful it is. See daydream guild video: viewtopic.php?f=54&t=51326

[Vri]

GTdC is a broken ability tha must be removed. It doesn't respect the range, when you are pulled, the collision keeps you in the air and when you're in the air, you're unable to do anything. It's a very bugged ability and devs should have removed it years ago already.

The games code is older than you. If you think gtdc is bad, you should have been here when BO snb tanks could take three hit combo or those two-three OP BG talents that got trimmed off years ago.

[lumpi33]

those two-three OP BG talents that got trimmed off years ago.

All classes that were added later were incredible overtuned. BG, Knight, Choppa, Slayer. Even after multiple nerfs they are still in top tier.