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ekalime
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Re: Patch Notes 10/01/2024

Post#51 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:12 pm

zgolec wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:35 am Any ETA on CnT/BBBE/BS? :/

T1 isn't much majority of server players concern...
...not being able to obtain gear on toons in the tier that is revelant to the game is a concern to many tho :(
Hi, as the person working on T1 for the benefit of new players I can assure you that my work on T1 in no way impacts the rest of the team's work on dungeons. Just like when I make live events it does not impact work on class balance. Separate people perform separate tasks.

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Konrath
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Re: Patch Notes 10/01/2024

Post#52 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:23 pm

Whoever worked on SW "balance" changes...Please don't.

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Gurzuk
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Re: Patch Notes 10/01/2024

Post#53 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:40 pm

Please, stop nerfing SW. Realy, far not the best/easiest class and not very popular. Now there is even less reason to play it. And please fix SW stances, it hurts allot.

syntillate
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Re: Patch Notes 10/01/2024

Post#54 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 11:34 pm

I like the sentiment behind the changes are positive: increased mobility, more standardised cc.

However I think leaving rdps classes with stronger snares than any melee classes is the wrong direction. Kiting is already overly easy for many classes and this just exacerbates the issue. At least drop all snares to 30% or certainly all rdps snares.

Avernus
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Re: Patch Notes 10/01/2024

Post#55 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:21 am

Konrath wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:23 pm Whoever worked on SW "balance" changes...Please don't.
Or at least make sure the guy actually play as SW to test his own brilliant ideas... No, T1 doesn't count. No, playing as destro and killing SW doesn't count either.

Erolgamer
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Re: Patch Notes 10/01/2024

Post#56 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:32 am

What about sorc/bw now that ppl will have better mobility ? should we get more hp to tank them a bit longer ?

lumpi33
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Re: Patch Notes 10/01/2024

Post#57 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:55 am

Sulorie wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:36 am
lumpi33 wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:17 am Hold on, you nerfed KDs on BWs and SWs but didn't touch the strongest KD in the game? The Spiteful Slam up to 5s KD of the BG? Even add a nerf to Stoutness of Stone? Alright, that is a strong give-away who is doing the balancing. Nerf everyone, especially the other realm but don't touch the own main toon and the other goodies on the main realm side. Seriously?...
You serious? Hardly anyone runs shield BG, because the KD isn't on demand. It's a meme and ofc annoying, if on the receiving end. The duration is based on hate, therefore different to "normal" CC. Man, you pulling stuff up which isn't even relevant to daily gameplay. We don't play the character builder game and the ones with strongest skills on paper win.
It is still a 5s kd though, that order tanks for example don't have. And what about maras aoe knock down? They have charge to close the gap fast, it is large aoe and it is 2s. How comes that a aoe knock down has the same duration as a ST knock down and no pre-requirements at all?

To me the patch has very one-sided nerfs. The BW and SW knock downs and the dwarven tactic that hurt the realm. What did they get in return? Nothing. What did they nerf on destro that is similar to that? Nothing. No dok CoC nerf, no WE regen build nerf, no mSH nerf, no mara monstro stance or aoe kd nerf, no run away nerf, nothing.
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Erolgamer
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Re: Patch Notes 10/01/2024

Post#58 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:59 am

just a reminder, sorc does not have a single KD, neither a self decurse

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lumpi33
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Re: Patch Notes 10/01/2024

Post#59 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:04 am

Erolgamer wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 7:59 am just a reminder, sorc does not have a single KD, neither a self decurse
That's not how the game is balanced. It's not class vs mirror balanced, it is realm vs realm balanced. There are tons of things order doesn't have. You have to look at the whole picture.

The thing is: They had no problems with choppas/maras dominating the orvr over years with their pulls, annoying order players to the point of quitting. Then engis start pulling -> instant nerf. Then sws become a bit more vaiable -> instant nerf. All within weeks after them becoming somehow usable again. Nerfs without compensation in any form.

When they nerfed the GTDC pull range back then they got a run speed buff in return and they still have it while it wasn't in v1.4.8. Were is that kind of compensation when nerfing order classes. Back then they removed the SW dot stacking without any compensation, leaving the skirmish tree in pieces. Now they nerf split arrow again, nobody knows why, and again without compensation. And now they are doing it again, leaving builds in pieces. They don't do that with destro classes.

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Re: Patch Notes 10/01/2024

Post#60 » Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:44 am

Konrath wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:23 pm Whoever worked on SW "balance" changes...Please don't.
Yeah. Class is gutted.

WL on st is a joke now as well...

+ less cc while leaving all mobility of shammies.... Yeah awesome combo.
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