[IB] useful in WB?

[Aebel]

I've been playing a BG for a while but I'm tired of joining SC with 7 other tanks so I've been messing around with Order tanks to get a feel for them. Looking over the IB'S masteries they look nothing like the BG's, now I know they're not supposed to be identical as mirrors but holy it looks to my noob eyes that the IB has like no group utility. Am I wrong? Are they somewhat useless beyond guarding, taunting, and punting in a WB or am I missing something?

[jafh123]

Nerfs are coming to IB so this may change, but right now IB has a lot of durability, CC, HTL, and can grant many buffs to its oath friend.

[Aebel]

Nerfs are coming to IB so this may change, but right now IB has a lot of durability, CC, HTL, and can grant many buffs to its oath friend.

Has there been an official declaration somewhere of how they're changing the tanks or is it rumors?

[Farrul]

Has there been an official declaration somewhere of how they're changing the tanks or is it rumors?

Maybe due to all complaints of solo roaming des players who can't defeat a SnB tank in regen? *whistles*

Honestly though IB deserves absolutely no more nerfs, it deserves to get GnM back, like all tanks( and the rest of the classes) it deserves a working channel attack again, which doesn't break continuously on use ( No idea why the devs do not prioritize this, this breaks several specs).

I don't think any tank needs to be nerfed in fact, some need to buffed like Black Orc(2H) and some need their old stuff back(IB, BG).

If they are going to nerf a tank due to solo roaming or 1vs1 performance, then fingers need to be pointed at the regen Chosen which is the strongest of them all, but i honestly don't think that's necessary, chosen just stands as an example of a tank class done right, strong in all contexts of the games without glaring flaws(kotbs/ facepalm) like some others.

[jafh123]

Has there been an official declaration somewhere of how they're changing the tanks or is it rumors?

Maybe due to all complaints of solo roaming des players who can't defeat a SnB tank in regen? *whistles*

This is the main reason. There's a particular individual that has been going around demolishing destro players left and right. Veterans have died and their cries have been heard.

IB will be a shadow of its former self, but we will endure.

[Farrul]

Has there been an official declaration somewhere of how they're changing the tanks or is it rumors?

Maybe due to all complaints of solo roaming des players who can't defeat a SnB tank in regen? *whistles*

This is the main reason. There's a particular individual that has been going around demolishing destro players left and right. Veterans have died and their cries have been heard.

IB will be a shadow of its former self, but we will endure.

Unfortunately even if it is said with a twinkle, this may come true given the nerfing history on this server. I think the devs mean well but their perception is lacking on the matter.

There is literally 3 IB's roaming as SnB in the lakes ( you included ) yet the swarms of overtuned shamans / magus etc can't stand the thought of not achieving total dominance, so they come here and QQ and make some ridiculous statements around anything that challenges their rule.

2H IB is already a shadow of its former self, long gone are days of Volgo and passionate 2H IB roaming the lakes grumbling, I threw in the towel as shield doesn't appeal to me, but i do admire your passion .

[tjalfe]

Sad if IB needs another nerf. I refused to give up after last nerf and switched to snb, it is very strong as a solo if ppl wanna fight. Everyone else simply flee to safety

[Pahakukka]

Dont think nerfing IB is the solution. Could block rate be tuned down a notch without it affecting bigger picture too much? Its not just snb ib that drives ppl off, but the snb builds in general. Its not much better roaming as order anymore. Loads of snb tanks on destro side too roaming around.

Sorry, this might have been a bit offtopic. Dont let me derail you any further

[jafh123]

Dont think nerfing IB is the solution. Could block rate be tuned down a notch without it affecting bigger picture too much? Its not just snb ib that drives ppl off, but the snb builds in general. Its not much better roaming as order anymore. Loads of snb tanks on destro side too roaming around.

Sorry, this might have been a bit offtopic. Dont let me derail you any further

I think that what drives people off is the regen + avoidance, not the block (or the parry) in itself. To have high block chance you need to invest on It, at least with IB you need renown and a tactic slot. Block was nerfed recently with weapon skill also granting block strike through.

And SnB tanks usually don't deal enough damage to be a threat, unless they are built offensively, which is not that common. I normally see SnB tanks as free (long) kills.

[Reivren27]

Gilgam, it would be interesting to see you with a two-handed hammer in roam and how much maximum efficiency you can squeeze out of such a build.