[WH] 5 tactics

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[WH] 5 tactics

Post#1 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:32 am

I sometimes read on Witch Hunters threads on this forum or on Youtube videos that Witch Hunters have access to 5 tactics.
While it is obvious that Witch Hunters don't benefit from an entitlement with a fifth tactic slot available, what is this "fifth tactic" that some people mention ?

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b00n
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Re: [WH] 5 tactics

Post#2 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:50 pm

it's a bug which still not gotten addressed
https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/20234
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Re: [WH] 5 tactics

Post#3 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:17 pm

Whenever you change tactics or their bars on Sorc, your Frozen Touch gets automatically rebuffed (same for BW's Flames of Rhuin, maybe).

Perhaps this could be used here?

True that those sorc/bw buffs have a timer whilst BBP does not, but maybe it's a possibility, who knows...
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Reivren27
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Re: [WH] 5 tactics

Post#4 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:46 pm

I believe that such errors should be fixed first of all, because this is a real exploit and gives an advantage. I (and not only) would like to hear the opinion of the server management on this issue.

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Re: [WH] 5 tactics

Post#5 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:13 pm

Goryak wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:17 pm Whenever you change tactics or their bars on Sorc, your Frozen Touch gets automatically rebuffed (same for BW's Flames of Rhuin, maybe).

Perhaps this could be used here?

True that those sorc/bw buffs have a timer whilst BBP does not, but maybe it's a possibility, who knows...
This bug doesn't happen on the Witch elf because it does the exact same thing as the sorc/wizard buffs so it is possible to fix this. Not sure why WH has been bugged for so long like this.
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wonshot
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Re: [WH] 5 tactics

Post#6 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:56 pm

From a player perspective it is truely disheartening to take a break in the summer, and the bugs and errors that were had a big impact on player enjoyment back in those months are still persiting issues still.

- Open warbands bugging out and despite having available slots players still cant join them after the warband bugs out after opening/closing them (persisted bug since like GCD patch)
- WH healing from bullet 5th tactic exploit. I only tested if this was the same old bug from 2019 where classes like BW/WP could have any tactic on that improved their partybuffs and tecnically could work on all these classes but couldnt replicate it. but im not sure if the WH specific bug has been fixed.

But it makes me wonder if RoR could sustain and maybe benefit from having the Community mangement team be more in touch with how the playerbase feel about the state of the game from week/month to week/month and help shift more priority onto areas of the game that has bugged out and need adressing, maybe not forum votes about which github posts needs adressing but something to make really enjoyment-killing bugs get fixed or attempted.

Does Magus and Enigneer still not have a class mechanic in Thunder mountain bug from over a year ago? something like that seems important to fix for game enjoyment.
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Re: [WH] 5 tactics

Post#7 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:27 pm

Just remove Sanctified Bullets until it's fixed.



And then forget to fix it.
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Minisynn
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Re: [WH] 5 tactics

Post#8 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:44 pm

wonshot wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:56 pm From a player perspective it is truely disheartening to take a break in the summer, and the bugs and errors that were had a big impact on player enjoyment back in those months are still persiting issues still.

- WH healing from bullet 5th tactic exploit. I only tested if this was the same old bug from 2019 where classes like BW/WP could have any tactic on that improved their partybuffs and tecnically could work on all these classes but couldnt replicate it. but im not sure if the WH specific bug has been fixed.

Does Magus and Enigneer still not have a class mechanic in Thunder mountain bug from over a year ago? something like that seems important to fix for game enjoyment.
Don't forget SMs/BOs being able to swap their stat tactic but it still applies, same as Maras as long as they don't switch stances after switching tactics which is easy for WB play in monstro, or Magus Endless Pandemonium being totally broken and allowing Pandemonium to stack up to 5 times on players, or the WP leading the prayer tactic still applying after you switch tactics as long as your party doesn't outrange the buff 😁 But don't worry, apparently they're going to start fixing stuff again after the ability system rework Dalen is working on which is due in... soon™

And yeah, the Engi/Magus TM turret despawning anywhere in TM that isn't on a rock or a building bug that was no small part of me finally giving up on my engi after 2 years is still in the game
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Re: [WH] 5 tactics

Post#9 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:13 pm

Minisynn wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:44 pm
wonshot wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:56 pm or Magus Endless Pandemonium being totally broken and allowing Pandemonium to stack up to 5 times on players,
Thats not a bug and is working as intended
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zoccolo
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Re: [WH] 5 tactics

Post#10 » Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:44 pm

Sarnai wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:27 pm Just remove Sanctified Bullets until it's fixed.



And then forget to fix it.
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