[Engineer,Magus]Keg,Aegis change

[faiden]

Bugmans brew: (Current)
Stackable with other Bugmans (All AoE fields does not stack but this one does)
Heals outside party (One of the few AoE heals that heals outside of party) (Does healing reduction work on this?)
Scales with Willpower
Untargetable

Tweak:
Suggestion Heal inside party only within range
Targetable

Aegis of orange fire: (Current)
1500 HP + Heal single use (removable)
Returns Elemental damage (mitigatable) on attacks (with dodge/disrupt pet this is pretty bad as it proc less)
Damage value scales with INT?

Tweak:
Make damage return on defended attacks to // make it AOE

The final fix!
Make both Keg and Aegis an AoE buff that increases HP by half of what the caster get and a 25%-50% chance to damage attackers.
Player 1500+ HP / AoE ~ 750 HP to others
Damage and HP dependent on skills placed in the tree. Damage increased by stats.
Engineers (corporeal) / Magus (Elemental)
Make it removable

[Glorian]

Will post later a longer answer.

But in general it is:

Tweaks: Nerf Engi, Buff Magus

Final Fix: Buff Magus, unclear Engi

I'm not sure what the final fix on engies is. As the heal buff shouldn't be stackable. It is a non argument for having more than one Engi in a group. Forgetting to have four.

[peterthepan3]

Aegis is ok imo does its job well and functions differently to bugman (quick big heal vs slower aoe heal)

[Grunbag]

If I understand right the keg would be targetable (can be destroyed ?) and magus heal buff/hp increase will be a safe ability ?(which order cannot do anything to counter )
As lesti said , it's a engi nerf while you give a magus big buff .
Heal debuff works on heal keg , it heal 9 random ppl (like all aoe cap) that standing close to keg

[Osred]

Just make the keg targetable.

[TenTonHammer]

Heal debuff works on heal keg , it heal 9 random ppl (like all aoe cap) that standing close to keg

it shouldnt heal out of groups nor stack

its inconsistent with every other AoE heal in the game

[Penril]

Balance discussion outside of the Balance forum. Locking, but feel free to post this in Proposals.