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Malessar
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Alternate LV set for tanks that don't use weapon skill

Post#1 » Mon Aug 18, 2025 5:55 pm

Chosen and swordmaster aren't inherently op as to justify them being punished over other classes, being given a set that is subpar what it would be to a black orc or a kotbs. It serves no purpose or reason.

Please make an alternative that simply replaces the ws for spirit damage. They get subpar items for the same amount of effort and it doesn't have any reason, it just is.

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Avernus
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Re: Alternate LV set for tanks that don't use weapon skill

Post#2 » Mon Aug 18, 2025 6:13 pm

Malessar wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 5:55 pm Chosen and swordmaster aren't inherently op as to justify them being punished over other classes, being given a set that is subpar what it would be to a black orc or a kotbs. It serves no purpose or reason.

Please make an alternative that simply replaces the ws for spirit damage. They get subpar items for the same amount of effort and it doesn't have any reason, it just is.
As far as i know, there will be no changes because all tanks are supposed to be in equal position. Just label those sets as garbage/appearence items and move on (farm for Sov+Vict).

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leftayparxoun
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Re: Alternate LV set for tanks that don't use weapon skill

Post#3 » Mon Aug 18, 2025 6:25 pm

Malessar wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 5:55 pm Chosen and swordmaster aren't inherently op as to justify them being punished over other classes, being given a set that is subpar what it would be to a black orc or a kotbs. It serves no purpose or reason.

Please make an alternative that simply replaces the ws for spirit damage. They get subpar items for the same amount of effort and it doesn't have any reason, it just is.

The Twisted Darkpromise set is subpar for physical tanks like KOTBS, BO, IB and BG too. At least compared to Warlord, off-Sov, Victorious and even Vale-Walker.
The one exception is for solo roaming KOTBS, where using 2 or 3 pieces of the set together with Warlord could lead to the best armor penetration values you can achieve. All 3 other physical tanks have an armor debuff they can rely on, even if they are alone.
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Sinisterror
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Re: Alternate LV set for tanks that don't use weapon skill

Post#4 » Mon Aug 18, 2025 6:53 pm

SM/Chosen should obvi should just have Ini instead of Ws or Str ofc. Also Sm should get 180all resis debuff proc instead armour debuff. Its interesting that IB has Resis Debuff on beastlord set instead of Sm.

I think its repeating the same pattern weve seen in RoR with sets. Copy paste set bonuses are only good if you treat it like live War did. Melee dps and dps wp/dok offensive set had the same set bonuses and they are universal like 12% Crit 25% Crit dmg and 180melee power. Every melee dps and dps dok/wp would want that. Same for Magic dps and dps ze/rp/sh/am just magic crit and 180 magic power.

Sets, abilities, tactics and morales should always aim to work together. Like Armour amounts are pathetic in RoR and Wl mara can 1.7k crit with aoe abilities and have 25% armour pene tactic which is ror added. Live rp/ze 1500 armour buff tactic stacked with armour potion 660 and that stacked with 800 armour buff procs. That triple defensive stacking is about the same amount as 1600 wl/mara armour debuff stacking with 800 armour proc to 2400.

Double stacking as offensive/triple stacking as defensive should be the rule again and crit the king :D Ofc sets should all aim to be very spesific if not original "archetype" type of sets that had same set bonus but different stats in the items.

https://imgur.com/a/warhammer-original-glory-3gwL5FQ https://imgur.com/a/warhammer-online-ro ... ls-GhRsKk7 those kind of things are needed back imo. 66dps 1h bow with boost VI proc and rr38 influence item having 3% Crit and Boost V proc
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Malessar
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Re: Alternate LV set for tanks that don't use weapon skill

Post#5 » Mon Aug 18, 2025 8:15 pm

Avernus wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 6:13 pm
Malessar wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 5:55 pm Chosen and swordmaster aren't inherently op as to justify them being punished over other classes, being given a set that is subpar what it would be to a black orc or a kotbs. It serves no purpose or reason.

Please make an alternative that simply replaces the ws for spirit damage. They get subpar items for the same amount of effort and it doesn't have any reason, it just is.
As far as i know, there will be no changes because all tanks are supposed to be in equal position. Just label those sets as garbage/appearence items and move on (farm for Sov+Vict).
That's exactly my point. The tanks are Not in the same position. 2 of them are in an inferior position because of a wasted stat. And just skipping LV isn't good design, adding an alt set or items works just as well..

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