Alternate LV set for tanks that don't use weapon skill

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Sinisterror
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Re: Alternate LV set for tanks that don't use weapon skill

Post#21 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:02 pm

Alubert wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:31 pm
hordak774 wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:21 pm
Malessar wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 5:55 pm Chosen and swordmaster aren't inherently op as to justify them being punished over other classes, being given a set that is subpar what it would be to a black orc or a kotbs. It serves no purpose or reason.

Please make an alternative that simply replaces the ws for spirit damage. They get subpar items for the same amount of effort and it doesn't have any reason, it just is.
so true agree 100% SM need alternative gear compare to other tanks with spirit resist debuff
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't SM have aoe spirit resist debuff?
I think the point is the hope of them stacking, because 180 resis debuff with IB Beaslord set which is interestingly unique because it was 2h set, but had resis debuff proc that stacked with Sm's Woh. They should stack offensively 2x and defensively 3x. Like 240 Double Ws buff Blorc used to have<3 or 240str240ws240ini and they stacked with Knight own str aura and Morale 2 to achieve insanity with 2h kotbs+Vigilance+all the now lost tools:/

Defensively stacking one higher, because live armour pot 660 stacked with 1500armour ze/rp tactic and if you had 700 armour proc all these 3 things stacked. But if you throw morale in there that gives armour, it replaces the 700 armour Proc. This is around 2900armour with 3x buffs. 2009 live i played marauder 1600 armour debuff stacked with my own 800 armour debuff wpn = 2400 armour debuffed/Buffed amounts to pretty close.

And yes WS Parry change should be reverted. There is nothing weird that Stat in WaR offers Offensive/Defensive things both. And yes you should have them both, the original Idea in War how skills worked was the best one imo. Like you need to use armour debuff 5 times as black orc to achieve 75% armour debuff reduction and Melee Abilities being affected by 05s-2s Cast time increases. 05s max 1s would be fine but 2s melee cast time increase is a bit much : D
Last edited by Sinisterror on Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:10 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Alternate LV set for tanks that don't use weapon skill

Post#22 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:03 pm

nocturnalguest wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 3:46 pm
Avernus wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 3:18 pm I have the other question - why bother to create armor with set bonuses like that? I mean, you might as well do nothing at all, i understand that conq and the rest of those garbage tier sets are old and outdated, but to add more junk into this pile...why?
You are very close to summon Sinisterror once again in this thread! :D

On a serious note, good question indeed, but when its more logical and productive (imo!) to raise questions against unified copycat sets and tanks itemization rather then create useless topics with nothing interesting to discuss.
Man i actually laughed out loud at this : D
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