Remove solo queue from Scenarions

[aa91837]

how will this end :

forced to group up players will be farmed by premades in voice, eventually they give up and stop q, less scs for everyone gg.

also rip t1 and mid tier scs

[dasparkylad]

I mean if the premades want to stop playing scenarios that's on them, but a lot more people will take their place when they can actually play scenarios without having to deal with pug v premades.

And ye voice gives an advantage as well, but being a premade will still allow for more coordination making things more balanced. At the very least its worth trying to see how it works as the current system is broken, its basically just premades farming people doing scenarios for events or likely new players who try it and then quit when they realise how unfun it is.

[kleinbuchstabe]

how will this end :

forced to group up players will be farmed by premades in voice, eventually they give up and stop q, less scs for everyone gg.

also rip t1 and mid tier scs

well, the premades are in voice allready... and solo players are geting farmed allready... and they stop que allready...
And your suggestion is: lets not change anything, cause it will be worse? Because premades are in voice? I dont get the logic behind that.

For t1: you can leave it like it is. To get acces to the mechanic in general.

[gisborne]

Sure, but keep the Solo Scenario. Then we'll find that Solo Scenario is the only one that pops, because premades don't want to fight premades. Then premades will exploit and time their queues in the Solo Scenario so that they can continue farming pugs.

[dirnsterer]

I love this idea.
First of all it will show who is who when it comes to the usual pug farmers who cannot stand up a proper premade fight.
Second, tryhard groups that get the "lesser" pug 6man on their side and get stomped by stronger tryhard + pug group will flame the **** out of the pugs so there is possibility for drama like no ones business.
Third, people will still get farmed as most likely some people organise it so that one side is stacked against other, just in case.
Fourth, scenarios will most likely be in same state as 6vs6 group queue is.

Edit: Just going to add this in here so just everyone knows what I mean with this is that it will finally showcase to the people who have groups at hand and do this generally everyday are no the general mmo population. The lifeblood of the mmo as I have seen it through years is not the guys who do 3vs3 arenas, do mythic raids but rather the everyday Joe. It is the guy who logs in, queues for random dungeon to get piece of some gear, does old dungeons to get transmog or queues to solo queue arenas.

So here, everyday Joe in warhammer logs in. Sees lakes are a blob fest during evening, does not like to be zerged by 5 warbands, queues for quick scenario or two. They will most likely have bad time, but they might have good time. This will just make the option failure state one earlier gate, as in they just dont queue for scenarios because they just want to press button and get something to do, but now they cannot. So their options are, TOK hunting, or pve which most likely requires group and they do not have time to yell around for 1 hour for a group. In turn earlier wow example, wow just has a whole dozens of games content in it for everyday Joe to do, so there they would have plenty of options if one does not pan out. Sadly no such luxury in Warhammer Online.

So out of morbid curiosity I would like to see if actually holding a person to gunpoint helps, or not. If it does help, actually great! But I do share my doubts.