WElf Nerf

[Shogun4138]

I love how you all have been killed by a WE and cry. Yet you avoid the fact they can be killed easily. Even regen WEs due fast if you know what to do.

On all regen classes. Stack your dots to negate regen. Cc them and kill. Unfortunately most players freak out, dump all their moves in the first 3 seconds.

Learn to counter regen. Our best move is release.

you should not talk you are the typical WE that can't 1v1 and need 3v1 to fight

Im full glass. You are not. You stack str in everything, even double str talis in your blood lord weapon. Then a parry tali in your vic ring. You better be able to beat me.

So you obviously got bumbed you died. You literally ran to a destro fortress. Not bright as there are no order defenders at the camp you ran to.

And yes, I run with friends. You should try it.

[Lescargo]

Gotta show what kind of Witch Elf players are arguing here in a way to say that "Witch Elves are fine" and don't need a nerf :



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The RR88 WE can't even 1v1 a 2H Kotbs with medium parry and low regen.

With that kind of Kotbs offensive build, a real Witch Elf like Solater would destroy me without any problem.

STOP saying Witch Elves are easy to beat because YOU are easy to beat.

The real gangsters WEs out there are almost IMPOSSIBLE to kill in a fair fight without having to stack a lot of defenses against them.

And I know what i'm talking about, i did tons of duels against most competitive WEs outside, and i tested as many different spec and builds, from pure glass canon crit 2hander to deep regen high def SnB. Full BIS With many variants.

Yes WE class is too strong considering the strong tool kit it have (high utility, control and mobility). I'm not saying WEs need big nerf, but there need some adjustements for sure, period.

Everyone knows you're a regen tank. Oh, you're more defensive than you let on. Between gear and abilities. So dont cry when you ran to fort and forgot you had no where to hide. Then died.

I'am sometimes, but not on the video, you can check me on my kb's page, i have actualy low regen and low parry, no impetus, no hidden regen on renown i'm deep strength, I am honest and completely transparent, you can check the stats on video and see the tactics, no coordination, got 500 toughness, running bloodlord weapon, no annulus or fleshrender/grimshimmer etc.

so man you got admit you're doing wrong, you're full glass but you're doing bad i'm sorry. I saw some glass WE lower rr doing way better than you 1v1.
And btw, yes i ran to fort like i still expected you guys giving up after being so terrible, but you are mental and yo need to hardchase 3v1 because of ego issues i swear.

[Lescargo]

Gotta show what kind of Witch Elf players are arguing here in a way to say that "Witch Elves are fine" and don't need a nerf :

So on this video i saw that 1 2h KOTBS can ez survive against 1 DPS WE (Yea, Gogo is not a DEF-WE, duuuh), that dps-WE the one the whole forum is crying for. Plus zeal, who do some dmg too! And not only survive, but get out with almost full hp...
But the WE is the one who OP here, right?

Ahahaah sometimes i just need to come to this forum to remind myself about how BIG double standarts can be ^^

good job you missed the whole point, same as the WE arguing WEs are fine since he's glass canon and can't destroy everything around.

[Shogun4138]

Gotta show what kind of Witch Elf players are arguing here in a way to say that "Witch Elves are fine" and don't need a nerf :



Click here to watch on YouTube



The RR88 WE can't even 1v1 a 2H Kotbs with medium parry and low regen.

With that kind of Kotbs offensive build, a real Witch Elf like Solater would destroy me without any problem.

STOP saying Witch Elves are easy to beat because YOU are easy to beat.

The real gangsters WEs out there are almost IMPOSSIBLE to kill in a fair fight without having to stack a lot of defenses against them.

And I know what i'm talking about, i did tons of duels against most competitive WEs outside, and i tested as many different spec and builds, from pure glass canon crit 2hander to deep regen high def SnB. Full BIS With many variants.

Yes WE class is too strong considering the strong tool kit it have (high utility, control and mobility). I'm not saying WEs need big nerf, but there need some adjustements for sure, period.

Everyone knows you're a regen tank. Oh, you're more defensive than you let on. Between gear and abilities. So dont cry when you ran to fort and forgot you had no where to hide. Then died.

I'am sometimes, but not on the video, you can check me on my kb's page, i have actualy low regen and low parry, no impetus, no hidden regen on renown i'm deep strength, I am honest and completely transparent, you can check the stats on video and see the tactics, no coordination, got 500 toughness, running bloodlord weapon, no annulus or fleshrender/grimshimmer etc.

so man you got admit you're doing wrong, you're full glass but you're doing bad i'm sorry. I saw some glass WE lower rr doing way better than you 1v1.
And btw, yes i ran to fort like i still expected you guys giving up after being so terrible, but you are mental and yo need to hardchase 3v1 because of ego issues i swear.

You do regen, admittedly. You have double my armored. You have more cc. You do both melee and magic damage. You have self buffs and debuffs. Dont act like kotbs are weak. You are buffing up your parry.

Im literally glass.

Just release and have fun. You cant win them all but I see you can come to the forums crying.

[Lescargo]

Everyone knows you're a regen tank. Oh, you're more defensive than you let on. Between gear and abilities. So dont cry when you ran to fort and forgot you had no where to hide. Then died.

I'am sometimes, but not on the video, you can check me on my kb's page, i have actualy low regen and low parry, no impetus, no hidden regen on renown i'm deep strength, I am honest and completely transparent, you can check the stats on video and see the tactics, no coordination, got 500 toughness, running bloodlord weapon, no annulus or fleshrender/grimshimmer etc.

so man you got admit you're doing wrong, you're full glass but you're doing bad i'm sorry. I saw some glass WE lower rr doing way better than you 1v1.
And btw, yes i ran to fort like i still expected you guys giving up after being so terrible, but you are mental and yo need to hardchase 3v1 because of ego issues i swear.

You do regen, admittedly. You have double my armored. You have more cc. You do both melee and magic damage. You have self buffs and debuffs. Dont act like kotbs are weak. You are buffing up your parry.

Im literally glass.

Just release and have fun. You cant win them all but I see you can come to the forums crying.

"QQ i'm glass", dudes expecting to beat bis solo tank as a glass canon stealther............ do you understand the rock, paper, scissor game ?

Worst part is actual well played glass canon WE can beat my actual build. So glass scissor can actualy beat glass rock, and talking about def WE is like rock scissor can actualy compete against rock rock. You don't see the problem homie ?

Yes, WEs need some adjustments you know it, even when i run full defensive regen snb i sometimes melt with those corp damages that bypass everything + the high utility toolkit is no joke.

[Shogun4138]

I'am sometimes, but not on the video, you can check me on my kb's page, i have actualy low regen and low parry, no impetus, no hidden regen on renown i'm deep strength, I am honest and completely transparent, you can check the stats on video and see the tactics, no coordination, got 500 toughness, running bloodlord weapon, no annulus or fleshrender/grimshimmer etc.

so man you got admit you're doing wrong, you're full glass but you're doing bad i'm sorry. I saw some glass WE lower rr doing way better than you 1v1.
And btw, yes i ran to fort like i still expected you guys giving up after being so terrible, but you are mental and yo need to hardchase 3v1 because of ego issues i swear.

You do regen, admittedly. You have double my armored. You have more cc. You do both melee and magic damage. You have self buffs and debuffs. Dont act like kotbs are weak. You are buffing up your parry.

Im literally glass.

Just release and have fun. You cant win them all but I see you can come to the forums crying.

"QQ i'm glass", dudes expecting to beat bis solo tank as a glass canon stealther............ do you understand the rock, paper, scissor game ?

Worst part is actual well played glass canon WE can beat my actual build. So glass scissor can actualy beat glass rock, and talking about def WE is like rock scissor can actualy compete against rock rock. You don't see the problem homie ?

Yes, WEs need some adjustments you know it, even when i run full defensive regen snb i sometimes melt with those corp damages that bypass everything + the high utility toolkit is no joke.

You just beat 2 WEs and you used pretty much all magic dots. Same thing a regen/tank WE we could use. You also used your morale one to absorb 3800 damage. Aura for damage. Stacked the same ability 3x for dots. Another ability for dots. Reduce defenses by 10%. So its ok for you to be like a defensive WE. You know no shame. With your parry with higher armor.. blah blah.. ez mode

[Lescargo]

You do regen, admittedly. You have double my armored. You have more cc. You do both melee and magic damage. You have self buffs and debuffs. Dont act like kotbs are weak. You are buffing up your parry.

Im literally glass.

Just release and have fun. You cant win them all but I see you can come to the forums crying.

"QQ i'm glass", dudes expecting to beat bis solo tank as a glass canon stealther............ do you understand the rock, paper, scissor game ?

Worst part is actual well played glass canon WE can beat my actual build. So glass scissor can actualy beat glass rock, and talking about def WE is like rock scissor can actualy compete against rock rock. You don't see the problem homie ?

Yes, WEs need some adjustments you know it, even when i run full defensive regen snb i sometimes melt with those corp damages that bypass everything + the high utility toolkit is no joke.

You just beat 2 WEs and you used pretty much all magic dots. Same thing a regen/tank WE we could use. You also used your morale one to absorb 3800 damage. Aura for damage. Stacked the same ability 3x for dots. Another ability for dots. Reduce defenses by 10%. So its ok for you to be like a defensive WE. You know no shame. With your parry with higher armor.. blah blah.. ez mode

ok check this out homie :


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recorded few hours just after i killed you guys, same build/same gear. that WE almost deleted me in seconds under kd, thanks gods i brained him at inc by jump stagger and side snare + setting up debuffs before he's spitting fire. then Had to insta pot and channel him to death.

This is a real glass WE do you understand ? you should contact him and ask tips 4 real.

[Soldis]

4k dmg(SS2k+AA+hd)+Wounds debuff, then stacks 3 EB. y true glass...overpowered. Love this "deleted me in seconds under kd", then you still killed him just by using a small rotation of abilities.

[Shogun4138]

Key words. Under knockdown. Thats Tazshera. She is a good WE. Basically your morale 1 wasnt up, the one you used on me to absorb 3800 damage.

Again all you illustrate is that there is no problem with a witchelf and that the actual OP class is a kotbs. You have defeated your own argument.

I can see the killboard like anyone else.. seems like you just showed everyone what the overpowered class really is. Your two braincells keep fighting for third place.

[SuperStar]

Hi guys i as the writer of the original post.

I dont see how your personal fights connected to the topic.

I have not problem with glass cannon welfs. They take a high risk for a high reward. If someone put and invest evertything to offensive stat then they should hit huge.

Also i dont see see too much problem with solo tanks. Its actually a low risk low reward gameplay. The ranged can kite them to death i think. Mdps can run away if they feel uncomfortable.

They have cc but dont have 2 pounce and stealth.
If they put everything on regen armor and toughness the solo tanks wont kill anybody only a lowbie afker under 30min.

If a solo tank put everything on offense they can hit hard but diea fast too.

I dont see problem here.

Of cousrese with a well balaced build between off ensive and defensive with experienece amd game knowlege and a potions can coz some trouble but i dont feel them unbalanced.

Not like the def welf who put everything on def end can kill easily.

The other problem the wl. The pet hit harder than the player. Wl can go full def the pet have a hagh base dmg.

Because the def welf most dmg is magic and the def wl most dmg is come from the pet.

Not like other mdsp whos most dmg are physical aganinst armor or actualy come from the player the welf magic dmg and the wl pet dmg should be reduced to compensate the huge advantage.