Aurandilaz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:56 pm
peterthepan3 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:48 pm
Bozzax wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:37 pm
So please share what is the problematic combo/fotm/setup?
I'm sure you can muster up a few potential comps
cough SH M4 cough Choppa/SL M4 cough WH M4 if you put your thinking cap on.
So you have multiple options, with multiple classes having access to potential M4 specs that make them into a juicy pick - whilst not really harming the cheese of ye old triple high elf trio, or not really hurting double Slayer comps, or not really threatening burst potential of WL anywya? Isn't it good if WH becomes a proper pick?
Maybe more M4 from 15pts will be balanced, and thus allow even more possible specs, for both 6man or 24man situations.
If previously all M4's were "once in a month" content that barely existed in game - but now is easier accessible for players, how can that be a bad thing? The alternative being the stupid slow old rates, where people just skipped all M4 specs outside of fort funnels, making it basically wasted game content.
1) WH was already a proper pick before this. Also, bringing a class only for an M4 is indicative of poor class design; if your only reason for bringing class X into a group is for a cheesy, OTT M4, then lel.
2) It actually reduces diversity: if you wish to contend, you will be
forced to bring Shamans and AMs into your groups for pumps; your BOs and Chosens will be
forced to use their pumps; your BO will be forced to use his morale drain ad nauseam; you will be
forced to only seek out classes that have exploitative Morales, leaving classes with mediocre Morales in the dust (why bring anything other than SH/Choppa/SL/WH in current Morale cheese land?). Such things should be optional. Morale pumps (and Morales in general) should play a part in all parts of the game, but to the extent that they become the game? OTT.
3) It promotes turtle-till-you-morale-drop playstyle: with such a shortage of morale drains in smallscale, you can simply engage in combat, turtle it out, and wait for your respective M4s to bomb them simultaneously. This is completely devoid of skill, and I'd wager the majority of the smallscale scene are opposed to having Morales become the be-all, end-all of PvP outcomes, instead of the supportive role they have been playing up until last patch.
I dunno, maybe people who don't engage in a lot of smallscale will find it hard to empathise with the fact that, Morale setups not being the go-to is actually a good thing. Just my 2c, perhaps others will disagree. Have beaten this to death so will leave it there, but suffice it to say that current level of gain, in conjunction with the pumps, has reduced encounters to 'who can build and then dump their Morales quicker': it's boring to both play, and play against.
EDIT: I'll try and find a vid of a certain 6v6 featuring a certain guild vs Enigma, who did nothing but Morale boost their WH with 2 AMs for Excommunicate. Such riveting gameplay indeed!