Suggestion: Cut stealth duration by 50%

[culland]

Given the new play style is to run around as groups of stealthers it seems appropriate to change stealth to a combat initiator role, but not prolonged stealth that limits people's ability to avoid a group like they could any other group of players.

Also lets make it so that its harder to get back into stealth.

Finally if you detect someone in stealth and you hit them with a direct hit (not AOE), then the stealth should break.

[gersy]

i agree that stealth should likely be reduced in potency. i believe that the correct path for achieving this is via uptime reduction.

a solution to this would be balancing it around 30 sec max duration and a 30 second cooldown (half of what it is now, assuming the character has the standard 60rr+ 300 AP pool) would be sufficient. this can be easily done by increasing the AP cost per second required for maintaining stealth from the current value of 5 to a new value of 10.

stealth should be balanced around being an initiation tool and "gap closer" in my opinion - not a tool to use to hide for extended periods of time until the right moment to pop out and insta kill a player who is significantly weaker than you.

however i disagree about allowing any form of damage (irregardless of aoe or single target) to break stealth once it is already active. this works in other games but in my opinion this wouldn't go over so well here, especially if it was paired with the aforementioned nerf.

[eldriyth]

"How about NO?!" - Dr. Evil

Honestly, before you bash the only 2 stealth classes in the game you should roll one first. Your idea is pathetic and selfish.

[Martok]

"How about NO?!" - Dr. Evil

Where have I seen that before?

Honestly, before you bash the only 2 stealth classes in the game you should roll one first. Your idea is pathetic and selfish.

I agree. Stealth is fine as it is.

[Ramihrdus]

Honestly, before you bash the only 2 stealth classes in the game you should roll one first.

Going 8v1 as a WH isn't really my playstyle, so I'd rather not.

[Panzerkasper]

Stealth ability should go on a 5 sec cd everytime the stealther takes a direct hit.

I have seen WE/WH going into stealth with 3 or 4 people hitting them in melee range. That is just completely absurd.

[culland]

i agree that stealth should likely be reduced in potency. i believe that the correct path for achieving this is via uptime reduction.

a solution to this would be balancing it around 30 sec max duration and a 30 second cooldown (half of what it is now, assuming the character has the standard 60rr+ 300 AP pool) would be sufficient. this can be easily done by increasing the AP cost per second required for maintaining stealth from the current value of 5 to a new value of 10.

stealth should be balanced around being an initiation tool and "gap closer" in my opinion - not a tool to use to hide for extended periods of time until the right moment to pop out and insta kill a player who is significantly weaker than you.

however i disagree about allowing any form of damage (irregardless of aoe or single target) to break stealth once it is already active. this works in other games but in my opinion this wouldn't go over so well here, especially if it was paired with the aforementioned nerf.

I like this suggestion, though reduced stealth cooldown needs some built in changes in regards to how easy it is to go into stealth currently, imo.

Curious as to why do you think a direct hit would not work well here? What about a chance of stealth breaking per direct hit?

[culland]

Stealth ability should go on a 5 sec cd everytime the stealther takes a direct hit.

I have seen WE/WH going into stealth with 3 or 4 people hitting them in melee range. That is just completely absurd.

I agree with the issue, but this seems like a bit of an exaggeration, maybe if they popped an absorb pot? More often its 'go behind this rock or tree' and poof.

[culland]

"How about NO?!" - Dr. Evil

Honestly, before you bash the only 2 stealth classes in the game you should roll one first. Your idea is pathetic and selfish.

Just out of curiosity. Do you only play one class and have only levelled one? I am genuinely interested in why people always assume folks have not played the class in question.

[Demonito]

Also lets make it so that its harder to get back into stealth.
Finally if you detect someone in stealth and you hit them with a direct hit (not AOE), then the stealth should break.

+1
Going back to stealth while under fire and detecting one without anyone else noticing is weird
Stealth could break when busted and hit by a ST hit ;
Then add a new spell to be cast on stealth "can't be detected" on CD to help going threw a group
And if going back to stealth was made harder, speed should get back to the insta vanish
Would enjoy those changes for both playing and facing wh

Given the new play style is to run around as groups of stealthers it seems appropriate to change stealth to a combat initiator role, but not prolonged stealth that limits people's ability to avoid a group like they could any other group of players.

-1
Stealth could last longer, it's actually really short already (~45s)