[Blackguard] Blade of Ruin disscussion

[murmelon]

Take off healing effect from "Feeding from Weakness", and adds to BOR( cd is increasing by 20 sec)

[Hauclir]

1 of the 2 changes I would like to see happen to BoR

Change 1: The damage of this ability doubled due to the fact each tick of damage is mitigated so it doesn't really do good damage or keep the damage the same, but make it ignore mitigation. Crippling Anger is more useful than this skill at least it slows the target by 40%...

Change 2: Make it a mirror to Spiteful Slam except keep the cost the same(15 hatred) and make Great Weapon & parry required instead of shield and block.

SAD FACT: 2 X Crippling Anger(5sec cd) + 40% snare > 1 BoR(10sec cd)

[TenTonHammer]

OK guys before we go any further down that vine of thought I want us to stop the talk of KD for BG with a 2h

Between crimson death, filled with fury, crit chance gear and a targets own chance to be crit Bg can have 30-40% or even more chance to be crit along with undetauntable tactic and hastened doom the class is one of the strongest pure damage 2h tanks in the game while still having access to a variety of tools that other 2h tanks don't get like superpunt and a no cooldown heal debuff that is basically more than 50% due to willpower debuff and soul killer


2h Bg won't get a kd the other thread basically discussed and wrote the possibility off

What we can expect the playstyle to get is a duration buff to CD along with it perhaps being made undefendable but that's it

[Sizer]

Why not just make it a dot like it is now but give it extra % armor debuff based on hate. Like murderous wrath but have it scale with hate (or if you want to be simple just give it a flat 25 debuff).

I do agree that 2h bgs need some work (but not a kd) as they are the weakest dps tank in the game, so this would be a great place to start.

[Jaycub]

25% is huge, would have to be like 10% increased armor penetration debuff similar to the zealot/RP HoT tactic or repel tactic for chosen... just in the inverse.

[TenTonHammer]

What if it was that

Targets took X increased damage for Y duration

But

It doesn't apply to you

Make it a grp utility ability

[Jaycub]

I think making BoR a utility ability is the endgoal here, or should be anyways.

So that in combination with a 10 sec CD it makes the 2h tree and spec viable when compared to s/b with it's 5 sec KD HtL etc...

[Shanell]

I do agree that 2h bgs need some work (but not a kd) as they are the weakest dps tank in the game, so this would be a great place to start.

I am not sure, are you for real? In my opinion, BG - one of the most damage dealing tanks in game.

[TenTonHammer]

I think making BoR a utility ability is the endgoal here, or should be anyways.

So that in combination with a 10 sec CD it makes the 2h tree and spec viable when compared to s/b with it's 5 sec KD HtL etc...

Yep those 2 changes is all we need, just gotta wait for Az to warm up to the idea

Though i would strongly prefer if CD was 10s and was undefendable so that we can always apply crit debuff

[noisestorm]

OP sh*t incoming: Make BoR a 5sec CD decreaser for your Darkprotected one but not you (unlike Whispering Winds, but effectwise the same) and deal a higher amount of dmg than lets say murderous wrath (also it should be like 30sec CD)