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bloodi
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Re: [Archmage] Funnel Essence

Post#11 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:55 pm

If any heal should be able to be used on the move, its Healing Energy.

Its already a bad idea to use it stationary most of the time, let Am and shaman have it with 0 cast time, funnel essence is way too good to be able to cast on the move and shaman would get nothing in return.

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Re: [Archmage] Funnel Essence

Post#12 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:06 pm

making FE castable on move is pretty good change cos it help AM where it is most needed. Allowing them to be move tough /healing themselves on move/ and helping their healing under pressure. So it is good change for buffing their survival skills and group play.

Syaing that FE is meh is pretty lol. That is the only! unique healing spell at WAR and paired with desperation and magic infusion is pretty strong /i would say strongest/ anti brust single target heal.

imo along with that i would change one of the elf racial tactics to be something similar to wazad behind you and AM will be pretty complete and balanced healing class

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bloodi wrote:If any heal should be able to be used on the move, its Healing Energy.

Its already a bad idea to use it stationary most of the time, let Am and shaman have it with 0 cast time, funnel essence is way too good to be able to cast on the move and shaman would get nothing in return.
i agree about the part for healing energy. Imo that heal should be changed for all healers /cos all have it/ to be casted on move and either lowr the ap to 35-40 or increase the healing with 30% or so.
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Re: [Archmage] Funnel Essence

Post#13 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:21 pm

AM does definitely **NOT** need Whazzat behind you, because he already has a detaunt tactic! Healing energy/GFI are indeed horribad, but i dont think they need an adjustment like you mentioned. Those spells rather need their AP costs halfed (to like 25AP) to become 'viable' .

@Bloodi: I think you obviously do not understand just HOW much stronger DSU compared to FE is. There is absolutely no need for shamans to get something in return either. This topic is solely about AM and FE being not really how it should be. IF shaman or its skills need some overhaul, make a topic and post there. But in my eyes there is generally no need for anything done regarding shaman alone atm. Again: IF there need to be a change to the Mechanic (like in the other topic seen) or anything peculiar regarding those classes, discuss it somewhere else as well.

@Topic: FE should get some love.

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Re: [Archmage] Funnel Essence

Post#14 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:22 pm

Nameless wrote: i agree about the part for healing energy. Imo that heal should be changed for all healers /cos all have it/ to be casted on move and either lowr the ap to 35-40 or increase the healing with 30% or so.
I agree with you on this one. That heal is almost borderline unusable for all classes, except maybe WP/DoK until they get level 20.
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Re: [Archmage] Funnel Essence

Post#15 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:38 pm

noisestorm wrote: @Bloodi: I think you obviously do not understand just HOW much stronger DSU compared to FE is. There is absolutely no need for shamans to get something in return either. This topic is solely about AM and FE being not really how it should be. IF shaman or its skills need some overhaul, make a topic and post there. But in my eyes there is generally no need for anything done regarding shaman alone atm. Again: IF there need to be a change to the Mechanic (like in the other topic seen) or anything peculiar regarding those classes, discuss it somewhere else as well.

@Topic: FE should get some love.

And you obviously dont understand how broken being able to cast Funnel essence on the move would be, there is a reason it has cast time compared to DSU, DSU is considered better because it has 0 cast time and thus, lets sham be mobile while using heals.

If you make FE not break on the move, its just an outclasses DSU in every single way.

That is why i rather see Healing energy with 0 cast time, also helps Am with healing on the move and there is a direct mirror on shaman to make the change for them if needed.

So no, FE should not get some love.

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Re: [Archmage] Funnel Essence

Post#16 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:51 pm

wait what? DSU superior to FE. Are you kidding me. Not reliable, cleansable, high ap, low duratation hot better than best ST heal ingame? Are we playing different game cos hots are quite meh at WAR. I would trade DSU for FE anytime
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Re: [Archmage] Funnel Essence

Post#17 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:55 pm

Nameless wrote:wait what? DSU superior to FE. Are you kidding me. Not reliable, cleansable, high ap, low duratation hot better than best ST heal ingame? Are we playing different game cos hots are quite meh at WAR. I would trade DSU for FE anytime
Yeah we are playing a different game, because in WAR mobile healers are tons better than immobile ones, Shamans are able to heal on the move, ams cannot, that is why Shamans are considered better at the healing aspect and DSU is the reason.

Sorry to break that to you.

If you want a little consolation, Dps am is miles ahead dps shaman, mostly because of the heal debuff.
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Re: [Archmage] Funnel Essence

Post#18 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:57 pm

Maybe you should consider that its not like back on live, where Kotbs had a 65feet triple cleanse. It is 5feet here. And no, DSU is not so easy to remove like you say it is. Also FE will still have 13 sec CD and is still vulnerable to any sort of interrupt. And the effect is more than easily seen. It is indeed a strong singletarget Heal - i am not denying this, but it definitely is not as good as you believe it is.

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Re: [Archmage] Funnel Essence

Post#19 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:12 pm

you cant heal brust with hots. It is impossible.
And no the tripple shatter is still not available at ror since the tactic is +lv32 so u didnt saw the beauty of enchantments remover
But seriously since the hots are so powerfull heal why noone use the cleanse hot? Yes the hot doesnt root you but it doesnt provide the heal when you need it. not to mention how ap hungry is to keep 9 sec hot on multiply targets
Hots work better at bigger TTK and now the ttk is so low that their usefullness is quite low
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Re: [Archmage] Funnel Essence

Post#20 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:20 pm

Like i said. It is not at 65feet anymore. I doubt any shaman will find kotbs as obnoxious as on live here, even when we hit t4. Believe me.

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