[Archmage] Asuryan Mastering

[Jaycub]

Ya the healing sucks no matter what you do. Right now my hot ticks for ~250 which I guess isn't all bad, the group heal is about 500 a hit, and with M2 up that can actually be a decent panic button to help out the group if say a sorc casts m2 SS. And of course the insta group heals with mechanic is alright fluff healing.

The CD and long duration of the life leech DoT makes it kinda of useless for healing people. Would be nice if the life leech tactic in 3rd tree worked for all damage then you could do some reliable single target heals without leeches, maybe make it not work on yourself or at a gimped rate to not buff 1v1 AM :^)

[Feidam]

The cooldown does hinder the life leech dot a lot. Based on how little arching power heals for maybe all it could cause that healing to be disturbed to group instead of just defensive target. Would definitely help, but could go into the realm of OP.

[Jaycub]

AoE heals do seem to be what is best, grace WP bread and butter spell anyways. And from playing heal spec it seems like you just spam group heal out of LoS anyways most of the time.

Making arcing power do a group heal based on your damage (like grace WP) could be good if looked at and tweaked, but it would of course have to be mirrored to shaman. It can replace the same tactic slot in their tree as the -10 sec cd tactic for the silence is garbage.

The other thing about aoe heals is it allows you to more focus on doing damage, right now it is pretty hard to keep track of everyone's HP while simultaneously assisting other dps and playing that role. What the grace WP has going for it is simplicity? You have a group melee heal, and a big single target panic heal which keeps things simple.

Also the healing of AM/Shaman shouldn't be on par with grace WP or DoK if something like this was ever considered, just because there is much more risk involved with melee healing than sitting back at range. Having AM be a more DPS focused hybrid compared to the more healing focused hybrid that grace WP presents would be ideal I think.

[Feidam]

I agree with a caveate. The healing would have to be in sufficient enough amounts to make it worthwhile. Otherwise, people still would not want them in groups.

[Belhannaer]

And how do you spec in renown? Full intell/glass canon or some defensive rr?

[Thalmus]

I experimented with a full Vaul spec back in the old days but it just wasn't viable. The AM is just too squishy for you to be able to heal yourself from the damage you cause.
I mainly used to spec full Asuryan and stacked magic crit to nearly 50% and my INT was up close to but less than 1000. You can pump out respectable dps but will still be inferior to top geared dps classes. As a single target ranged dps it's all about target selection and how you co-ordinate with your team. using main assist/enemy/targeting addons are really important when playing with a group. Your Achilles heal when in this glass cannon spec is deffo witch elves tho.
When I got upto RR90 I just gave up on the dps as just required too much skill and effort to be effective. So much easier to go full Isha and just spam group heals and use instant res tactic to support the group.