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Penril
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#31 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:28 pm

Tklees wrote:
Foxbeep wrote:
Sizer wrote:If fester was nerfed because there was no counterplay, why has eye shot not received the same treatment? Or what, is the counterplay being able to hit RD in the 1/2s it takes for the eye shot animation to hit you?

I mean, i'm all for a fester nerf, it was a dumb skill, but it would be nice if things were consistent.

I hate to be the one to break it to you that a skill that kills in one shot and a skill that knocks down your target aren't the same skill and can't receive the same treatment.
L2p etc there's CC on each side, it evens out a lot in t4.
Destro gets two 65ft KDs in t4? I had no idea....
One is 100ft actually, and the other one is 48. :)

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Tklees
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#32 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:31 pm

Penril wrote:
Tklees wrote:
Foxbeep wrote:
I hate to be the one to break it to you that a skill that kills in one shot and a skill that knocks down your target aren't the same skill and can't receive the same treatment.
L2p etc there's CC on each side, it evens out a lot in t4.
Destro gets two 65ft KDs in t4? I had no idea....
One is 100ft actually, and the other one is 48. :)
You get my point...
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incredible
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#33 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:32 pm

The answer seems easy to me - the SW and Mara were given twin abilities much like the SH and WL.

VoN and Mutated Aggressor are an example. Now consider the range knockdown. The Mara's version is 100 ft in range but it requires a disrupt to use. Given that the mara is melee, and doesn't stack disrupt, you can imagine how often this ability is actually available.

Now look at the SW - no requirement to use, effectively available all the time.

Simple fix - mara RKD requires a disrupt so SW RKD requires a parry. That, or make mara RKD have no requirement either.

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Mez
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#34 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:32 pm

Call me the conservationist but in no way should destro ever be on par with Order's ranged knockdowns. That would just ruin the nostalgia for me. It's one of the core themes of Order being ezmode and destro being hard-mode.

NA times also there's barely any good order ever queueing, we need something to dangle in front of people to keep them logged on. Playing a destro RDPS is one of the most fun experiences in terms of heads up prekiting, detaunting and calling crap out in ventrilo, merely because of Order's ranged knockdown alone. Oh and WL Ensnare. Don't give Mara's the ability to morale 1 wtf better-than-champ-challenge-ranged-perma-root-someone-at-will. People, let's stick to the reality mythic painted and love to hate it.
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Word of Pain and Boiling Blood are no longer able to proc anything. The Bright Wizard College has confirmed this is a big deal. (stealth nerf)
https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=23145

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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#35 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:37 pm

Covenant of Celerity on Order when? :^)
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Mavella
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#36 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:55 pm

Mez wrote:Call me the conservationist but in no way should destro ever be on par with Order's ranged knockdowns. That would just ruin the nostalgia for me. It's one of the core themes of Order being ezmode and destro being hard-mode.

NA times also there's barely any good order ever queueing, we need something to dangle in front of people to keep them logged on. Playing a destro RDPS is one of the most fun experiences in terms of heads up prekiting, detaunting and calling crap out in ventrilo, merely because of Order's ranged knockdown alone. Oh and WL Ensnare. Don't give Mara's the ability to morale 1 wtf better-than-champ-challenge-ranged-perma-root-someone-at-will. People, let's stick to the reality mythic painted and love to hate it.

Mara has flames of fate. Same morale.

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Mez
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#37 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:06 pm

Sir, I have learned something today. Wow. I guess I never felt that ever in PvP because the WL has the ability to also get on you with pounce. I dunno. Doesn't seem same to me but still new info to me. Cool.

Now if only we can chain it with a knockdown..things would be unfamiliar and interesting at the same time.
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Word of Pain and Boiling Blood are no longer able to proc anything. The Bright Wizard College has confirmed this is a big deal. (stealth nerf)
https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=23145

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Mez
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#38 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:06 pm

Let's make it happen people!

No no, that would break my reality.
Last edited by Mez on Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Word of Pain and Boiling Blood are no longer able to proc anything. The Bright Wizard College has confirmed this is a big deal. (stealth nerf)
https://bugs.returnofreckoning.com/view.php?id=23145

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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#39 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:08 pm

This time, on "Why I have a reason to feel better than others," one class that doesn't even make it into the meta of the game's ranged knockdown is the reason playing Order is for noobs and Destro is for 1337 Meta-gods!

You guys are so silly

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Goib
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Re: SW weakest class?

Post#40 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:10 pm

hahaha

made my day, bro !

u got a range knockback, festering arrow, melee stance etc. the list is endless

maybe u should consider playing destro to get a taste what its like to play "weak" classes compared to order classes !
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