Nerfed buttons

[magter3001]

Hi. I used NB and I had the following problem: I create a chain of skills, but not the icon appears on the action bar. It only appears if i has an enemy in my target. how to fix it?

Like Tiggo said, just put the ability you want shown on the action bar to the very right of the whole sequence.

[Shutyergob]

Hey I've seen mention of a Nerfedbuttons user guide, one that explains what all the various options do, etc., but I haven't been able to locate it. Some links to it are dead, etc. So if any of you are aware of a good link to this guide, then please provide that link. I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

[noisestorm]

Better just remove all APIs for addons like that. Pure cancer..

*aza pls*

[Sulorie]

Do you want to remove gaming keyboards or mice as well?^^ When you have monkey fingers or equipment with enough buttons you can do pretty much the same.

[Ghostweed]

Better just remove all APIs for addons like that. Pure cancer..

*aza pls*

Amen to that, NB is almost a cheat as its diminish motorical skills and decision making process of the player to minimum.

[Razid1987]

Pretty much. I hadn't used NB before. I only knew what it was by reputation, but actually wanted to find out what all the fuzz what about, so I downloaded it myself. And it's absolutely retarded.
Just set up a sequence, where you "auto-do" everything: Enemies isn't snared? Insta-snare! Enemy isn't on immunity timer? Knockdown! Have a DoT ability with no cd? Np, just make an artificial cd and make NB cast another ability if the dot is still up on keypress! Need to switch stance to use a certain ability? 1 button: DONE! Have a certain amount of HP, and want to play more defensive? Np, NB can do it all!

It removes thought, decision making, skill, reaction time, and knowledge from combat. I don't even have to know what ANY buff or debuff does: NB fixes it all, instantly. Just spam the **** out of one button and you're automatically maximized in DPS/HPS/Mitigation/buffing/debuffing/cleansing etc etc.

You can in theory, play as well as with this addon, just without it. But considering human error in combat? Yeah.... No, not gonna happen. You might pull it off once in a while, but in general with actual challenging combats where you actually have to do your best, there's no way you can not make a single mistake.

It's as good as a cheat. Plain and simple.

[Arbich]

Pretty much. I hadn't used NB before. I only knew what it was by reputation, but actually wanted to find out what all the fuzz what about, so I downloaded it myself. And it's absolutely retarded.
Just set up a sequence, where you "auto-do" everything: Enemies isn't snared? Insta-snare! Enemy isn't on immunity timer? Knockdown! Have a DoT ability with no cd? Np, just make an artificial cd and make NB cast another ability if the dot is still up on keypress! Need to switch stance to use a certain ability? 1 button: DONE! Have a certain amount of HP, and want to play more defensive? Np, NB can do it all!

It removes thought, decision making, skill, reaction time, and knowledge from combat. I don't even have to know what ANY buff or debuff does: NB fixes it all, instantly. Just spam the **** out of one button and you're automatically maximized in DPS/HPS/Mitigation/buffing/debuffing/cleansing etc etc.

You can in theory, play as well as with this addon, just without it. But considering human error in combat? Yeah.... No, not gonna happen. You might pull it off once in a while, but in general with actual challenging combats where you actually have to do your best, there's no way you can not make a single mistake.

It's good as a cheat. Plain and simple.

pretty much this. great post

But like in other games, RoR has different difficult levels.
For example an addon like enemy (I use this on my heal-toons) gives you informations (especially about range) that otherwise are difficult to find out. It has nothing to do with skill, it is simply easy mode.
With nerfed buttons its seemed that the different skills you have don´t matter anymore. I consider this as very easy mode.
It helps people that otherwise maybe have problems to compete. All in all the balance is ok, so it is maybe not that big problem. People that want to play on normal difficulty, can play without addons.

But I would be happy to see a RoR without the ability to use any addon, except gimmick addon (like deathblow for example).

[PartizanRUS]

Better just remove all APIs for addons like that. Pure cancer..
*aza pls*

Devs can remove APIs for this exploit ?
Just DO IT !

You cant do the same like NB with a Gaming Mouse or Makro´s.
NB Check conditions for you " automaticly " if you in Front of a Target spam 1 Ability, if you in Back another with same Button.
You dont have to look anymore if it´s available, NB does it for you.
In Fight its a big benefit, because you dont have to react on a Situation.
You dont loose any Time, and its only 1 example.
I dont use NB, but test alot with previous.
No Game Mouse, no Game Keyboard, no Makro can do these things like NB can.
Its not like "Godmode" its not like a Noob grow into a Pro, but more than 75% of NB User´s didnt "play" as good without NB.

Out of curiosity
What you hope to gain from droping NB and how will it improve Warhammer?

I really love that noone has bothered to answer this question yet

Simple,
i wanna play VS Humans, not VS a Sofware.
Humans have to make decisions, Humans have to react on Situations, Humans have a response Time, Humans make mistake´s.
All this things NB can do faster, without mistake´s.

Some points for this legal exploit that is still allowed on this server.

[Beakerz]

You can only set up so many conditions, with so many situations in mind for NB (and don't forget, NB isn't perfect, it'll use the wrong ability quite often, especially if you spam). Those that use it extensively, or exclusively, WILL find themselves in situations where using NB is detrimental to their current situation, whereas a good player, not using NB, would have known the solutions like the back of their hand.

I say let people use NB, let people gimp their skill and adaptability. Sure, it may make those players better in an instant after they set up their NBs, but it will 'hard cap' them.

For example, on a WH, if you have the Disarm on Parry skill (whatever it's called, don't play a WH often) set up on every button when enemy target is a melee. Sounds OP, right? Well, even that can shoot you in the foot, when you need the ability you were pressing to go off, not the disarm, or simply didn't notice the disarm and forgot to continue pressing the key to follow up. It can easily be a detriment to your overall DPS.

Source: On live, my Shift+1 and Shift+2 were NB super-chains. Preferred not to use them.

[mogt]

nerfed button can use for setup for hacking,that is bannable, who do us it