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gobbito
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Re: This has to stop once and for all

Post#41 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:59 pm

freshour wrote:Think it may have to do with people getting around debolster? He said they were 14/16 but I've never debolstered, however it was fixed since there were and still are apparently ways to get around it to have better items/abilities and what not. Woulda been nice if you checked the log to see what killed you, how much damage it was. It'd be pretty easy to find out the maximum damage a level 16 WE can do and if they did more, probably cheated lol, if not, probably got unlocky and they crit the **** out of you? Idk... I don't like talking/asking about exploits but there are people who generally play games just to cheat, so there is no telling.

well said indeed

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Re: This has to stop once and for all

Post#42 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:01 pm

Overbolster is really strong the first couple of lvls in each tiers. I had something like 70% armor pen as a lvl 1 WE in t1 lakes. If the WEs were lucky they gained a chain of crits on you while ignoring moast of your armor. This probobly more the reason then them using any cheats
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Re: This has to stop once and for all

Post#43 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:04 pm

gobbito wrote: Really? Tell me that nb doesnt activate when you have a parry skill or behind your target.
it doesn't activate. go learn NB.

For example,

NON NB: on a marauder you have button 1 bound to cutting claw, button 2 bound to thunderous blow, and button 3 bound to gut ripper (which requires parry).

Using NB: you could bind button 2 to be thunderous blow, but - when gut ripper is available - button 2 is now gut ripper. so under NB you have button 1 cutting claw, and button 2 thunderous blow / gut ripper when available.

You are fighting someone. You open with thunderous blow button 2. they attack you and you parry -

In a NON NB USER: button 2 is still thunderous blow on cooldown but button 3 is gut ripper and its available - you press button 3.

In a NB USER wordl: your button 2, which would normally be a cooldown of thunderous blow - is now showing gut ripper since it is available. You press button 2 again and use gut ripper.

NB has done NOTHING to change your timing or power of ability. It simply has made it that you can press button 2 to use gut ripper instead of button 3.

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Re: This has to stop once and for all

Post#44 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:06 pm

gobbito wrote:
Really? Tell me that nb doesnt activate when you have a parry skill or behind your target.
it does but the skill does not do more dmg just because NB does the trick.

without nb you would have behind your target skill on 2 anytimer on 1. what you would do without NB is ALWAYS press 2 and then 1 so whenever 2 is active you will hit with behind and otherwise with 1. NB only consolidates that to 1.
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gobbito
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Re: This has to stop once and for all

Post#45 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:08 pm

roadkillrobin wrote:Overbolster is really strong the first couple of lvls in each tiers. I had something like 70% armor pen as a lvl 1 WE in t1 lakes. If the WEs were lucky they gained a chain of crits on you while ignoring moast of your armor. This probobly more the reason then them using any cheats

Well I forgot to mention that one of the we in the shadowlands killed me 3 times in a solo fights.

So no, no lucky procs here.

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Re: This has to stop once and for all

Post#46 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:09 pm

3 times in a roll I mean

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Re: This has to stop once and for all

Post#47 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:12 pm

gobbito wrote:
roadkillrobin wrote:Overbolster is really strong the first couple of lvls in each tiers. I had something like 70% armor pen as a lvl 1 WE in t1 lakes. If the WEs were lucky they gained a chain of crits on you while ignoring moast of your armor. This probobly more the reason then them using any cheats

Well I forgot to mention that one of the we in the shadowlands killed me 3 times in a solo fights.

So no, no lucky procs here.
And, um. This couldn't possibly be an indication of a player who's really good at using their Witch Elf class in a solo fight?

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gobbito
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Re: This has to stop once and for all

Post#48 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:16 pm

bwdaWAR wrote:
gobbito wrote:
roadkillrobin wrote:Overbolster is really strong the first couple of lvls in each tiers. I had something like 70% armor pen as a lvl 1 WE in t1 lakes. If the WEs were lucky they gained a chain of crits on you while ignoring moast of your armor. This probobly more the reason then them using any cheats

Well I forgot to mention that one of the we in the shadowlands killed me 3 times in a solo fights.

So no, no lucky procs here.
And, um. This couldn't possibly be an indication of a player who's really good at using their Witch Elf class in a solo fight?
Ofc there are players that excell playing a class but due to the diff of levels, the gear, talis, tactics my potions and my experience with another we same or much igher levels... just no.

I wouldn´t complain if that same we kill me because is better player than me , no. My point is that both deleted me in almost zero time and that is not possible due to the reasons I spoke before

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Re: This has to stop once and for all

Post#49 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:22 pm

gobbito wrote:Ofc there are players that excell playing a class but due to the diff of levels, the gear, talis, tactics my potions and my experience with another we same or much igher levels... just no.

I wouldn´t complain if that same we kill me because is better player than me , no. My point is that both deleted me in almost zero time and that is not possible due to the reasons I spoke before
Did you check the combat logs? So far you only speak about a very short time these fights happened, not what abilities were used and so on. Not asking to post the logs here, just if you checked them at all to see why/how they killed you so fast.

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Re: This has to stop once and for all

Post#50 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:29 pm

bwdaWAR wrote:
gobbito wrote:Ofc there are players that excell playing a class but due to the diff of levels, the gear, talis, tactics my potions and my experience with another we same or much igher levels... just no.

I wouldn´t complain if that same we kill me because is better player than me , no. My point is that both deleted me in almost zero time and that is not possible due to the reasons I spoke before
Did you check the combat logs? So far you only speak about a very short time these fights happened, not what abilities were used and so on. Not asking to post the logs here, just if you checked them at all to see why/how they killed you so fast.
I usually do.

But at that moment I was about to leave home so was in a hurry and very pissed off so I log off inmediatly.

I know my fault.

next time i will try to record when I am solo roaming ( I sometimes do but not this time)

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