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Euan
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GM's hate him! Community "troll" exposes abuse

Post#1 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:31 am

Azarael said I could make this thread so do not lock please.

OKay this all started way back in like September 2015. I was chatting in /advice and some guy was disucussing RvR. He got annoyed at me because I would not agree and started insulting me. I was ready to end and I called him retarded and then I stopped disucssing with him. He said I would be banned and sure enough the next day I was. He sounded so sure I thought he was a GM or a friend of theirs. After I was banned I went to the forums to read the ToS. It did say no insulting but it also said to post full log and not just a snippet of the reported player. I made a thread asking why I was banned because I wanted to see what proof was submitted. Immidiately the thread was locked and told not to post this on forums. I pm'd Github


xyeppp wrote:
If you wish to discuss your ban, contact a member of staff privately on the forum.
Do not make a public thread about it.

He said he would ask around about what I did and get back to me, I never heard back about it.

I pm'd others

Yaliska wrote:
Oh. I can't tell you mate, no idea :(.

Others didn't reply including Sigmar priest.

They lock threads and don't reply to the PM's. I felt I was unjustly banned. I was never given a warning and I think the other guy insulting me constantly was the one deserving of the ban. I've seen Noisestorm calling me dip **** and saying the community was **** stupid and Github telling all of Destro they were retarded. But staff are above the rules I guess.

I've seen a few threads where people are asking why they were banned and usually they are met with a locked thread and bitchy reply. One of these was Wargrimnir who told him he was not deserving of a reply and didn't answer any of his questions which were quite valid. I Pm'd Wargrimnir

Euan wrote:
"He is asking when his ban will be up which is not asking a lot. I don't understand why you would rather post a question and lock the thread when it would be easier to point him in the right direction or simply answer if you already know."

we got to talking about my ban and this is what he wrote

Wargrimnir
If you feel it wasn't warranted, then I'll extend our apology that it wasn't handled to more specific standards. I can tell you that the vast majority of reports, warnings, and bans that we make do follow our guidelines, and your ban does appears to be outside of those.

Basically I was never going to get an answer. GM's always ask for proof but they fail to provide the proof themselves. They lock your threads with a bitchy answer most of the time and tell you to take it to pm's where they ignore you or tell you they don't know. I've offered to help with people who are banned and responding to them since staff has a problem answering their questions, but they can't have soemone who doesn't just accept things.

Recently another player was banned unjustly and given more time for discussing it which I think is really crappy. I made a post about GM's abusing their power to which I was threatened by the staff member Azrael that if I discuss GM's or Order bias I will be banned. He apparently had already told me before (which he didn't) I asked him for proof and to quote where he said that. He's lying so he couldn't quote anything. He said I'm to be banned for **** posting which is quite common with the staff. I don't deny that I sometimes make posts like that, but they're usually on subject or issues being discussed so I wouldn't call them **** posts. Azarael actually does drop these **** posts on the regular. These are just a few posts where he adds nothing but a snarky remark which apparently irks him so much he does it himself. Staff is allowed not players.

Azrael quotes
Thanks. I'm sure nobody thought of that before posting this thread.
Lol @ this blame shifting.
Right back at you!
Marauder needs buffs?
lol what
Wow, talk about getting destroyed.
Idealism is a wonderful thing.

Here is Noisestorm's quotes which add so much to threads that he's now mod (Azarael's buddy) I think he is the definition of shitposts which is why I call him out a lot but he deserves to be mod because he's Azaraels buddy. Almost always replies indirectly with a snarky comment which adds nothing to the thread.

No give pounce to marauder and choppa! .... ... .. oh wait.
Remove combustion and dark magic from BW/Sorc !

Yea nerf AM dots into the floor. But dont forget to remove selfheal from Choppa too. Since a dps shouldnt heal! amirite? : >

Better nerf the Queen and Towers!

Make all fields Black. I blame chess for racism.

Yeah nerf magus and engi. Dots and turrets are just too op to handle

Okay but then remove cleanse m2 from DoK and the movement speed tactics from BG and Chosen. for all i care also the one from IB : >

If we're already at it. Since shamy got the 40% extra heal tactic from AM mirrored, AM also should get the RUN! tactic, right?

Azrael has lied before to cover his order bias influenced by notorious Noisestorm. When I asked him why the Marauder throw axe was changed he said it wasn't directed at the Marauder. The logic behind it was that none of the melee should be able to proc off ranged attacks. I let it go until it came back up in another thread. In another thread Azarael revealed he changed Marauder's throw axe proc after watching a 1v1 video where a RR100 Marauder is dueling a SW. After I made this very apparent to the community he changed it back.

Let me just drop this here, these are all Azaraels words.

Nobody cares about 1on1. I don't give a damn about it when it comes to class balance discussions.

SilverWF wrote:
But ppl will always compare classes in 1vs1 mode

Azarael:
And they will be ignored if they do.

Fair enough. Nobody cares about the result of 1v1, indeed.

Nobody cares huh? Lets nerf Marauder, not your buddies AM who is the best 1v1er in the game.

Staff is constantly flexing their power. Here is a perfect example:

Freddie replies to thread
Torque replies with :
This point has been made, by myself, and accepted, no need to hammer it home.

Apparently he needed to check every post to make sure Torque hadn't posted the same thing.

Freddie replies with:
Well I hammered it anyway. If it takes away from world RVR it is a bad idea.

Magicthighs chimes in with:
Dude, learn to take a hint. If a member of staff tells you to drop it just drop it.

I reply to the thread letting Magicthighs know the guy hasn't done anything wrong to which my reply was deleted. They made it a bigger deal than what it was. I saw Signmar priest check Torque before for posting something similar but I can't be bothered to look for it.

Last but not least Rexsaur. I was with him in voice com and in game where there was a white lion killing him, he got inside the keep and the WL pounced and it bugged and let the white lion inside. He was killed by the WL inside the keep but the WL was killed by the guards. He let me know that he was going to kick the WL off the server. I asked him if he was going to give him a warning, he said no. Had the guards not killed him he would have been booted. I didn't bother arguing with him I just said I was going to bed and left. I didn't think that was OK at all even if it didn't happen just his thought process.

This thread was going to be a lot longer but this has already taken too much time and I need to get back to studying. I was just going to uninstall and not make this thread since I was threatened with a ban and why take all this time to explain myself when the community is just going to tell me to deal with it or leave. I'm stupid for even caring, honestly. I don't think I'll be back with the apparent order bias and staff acting like this. Maybe my choice will be taken with a perma ban. Was fun ganking you guys once again. Cheers :)


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Post#2 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:46 am

10/10 read. Would read again. Even saved the page :lol:
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Post#3 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:06 am

I actually took the time to read all that drivel :^(

Why are you going on some kind of weird tangent about balance halfway through then immediately transition into using a totally unrelated thread as an anecdote and provide no context, had I not been in that particular thread I would have 0 idea what you are talking about.

I get what you are trying to do, but like I could of made up **** and done better m8. You should of taken your time to make clear concise points instead of whatever this is.
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Post#4 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:09 am

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Post#5 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:11 am

TLDR Euan things the gm's are woefully inconstant in punishing people.

If the GM's kept a greater record of punishment and had a transparent, iron clad policy on when to punish would that make you happy?
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Post#6 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:26 am

Toldavf wrote:TLDR Euan things the gm's are woefully inconstant in punishing people.

If the GM's kept a greater record of punishment and had a transparent, iron clad policy on when to punish would that make you happy?
It just seems like abuse of power when you're punishing someone for allegedly doing something you're actually guilty of. I do wish they were more transparent. Like I said I have offered to help them deal with these cases.


@jaycub, yes, it could have been a lot better and it was meant to be longer with pictures of everything but I wasn't sure anyone was really going to read this and it had already taken me hours looking for posts in 70+ page threads/mail/email. There was a lot of hesistation, I wasn't sure if I was going to write this at all. It wasn't meant to be about balance either, just showing you how Azarael was lying. If I just made everything up it would be a lot faster and look nicer.
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Post#7 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:47 am

Even if you sent Azarael a PM with the entirety of this post, I'm sure the only reason he did was to let you make an idiot out of yourself. What did you really hope to accomplish with half of your post being filled with random quips from staff members taken out of context?

I already had you on ignore because your posts are far more awful than any of the '****posting' that goes on. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
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Re: GM's hate him! Community "troll" exposes abuse

Post#8 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:47 am

And locked in 3.2.1 xD hmm weird xD no offens but we know what will happend soon....

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Post#9 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:07 am

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Post#10 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:21 am

Imo, the largest issue is that players expect a level of professionalism from those donating their time. Whether that is extended or not on a regular basis is entirely dependant upon whom is "chosen" to have to deal with this crap on a CONSTANT DAILY basis.

If I was offered a spot on the dev discussions just to be a GM 2 days a week I would laugh. I can read the /advice channel. I see the flaming douche-nozzles(clinical term) that frequent a free MMO game.

I understand you're upset. You care about this game, and probably have spent a significant portion of your life since Sept 15 to this game. I know I have. but you get what you pay for, and that is unilaterally nothing. The GMs don't owe you A **** Thing. I don't mean an attack in that at all. They have given us far more than we deserve in letting us play War again. Yes, it sucks to be badly done by. Yes, someone probably **** up then tried to make it hard to let you make them look like a prick. Or not.

But... In the greater scheme of things... Maybe just take the lick, make a point about it, and not complain about others saltyness while insulting them yourself? Just cause they are a GM/dev, they are also players of this game... And human.
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