Pug Only Scenario

[peterthepan3]

Scenarios should all be that way for me, so if there is the chance to actually have at least once that way i would be happy about it.

[Jaycub]

PUG scenarios are great, no matter what anyone says there is no reason a premade 6 man sitting in vent/TS should ever go against 6 randoms in any game.

I could write a novel, but essentially the problem we have here is we don't have enough population to support separate ques. Doing so now would punish players who group together, and hurt the hardcore playerbase tremendously.

While separate ques won't solve all the problems, it does completely eliminate a factor that does often come into play when you are solo queuing. It's a step forward and one that shouldn't be avoided because "well they will still complain about X anyways".

The other problems being proper group compositions coming together for randoms, which is not an insolvable problem. But again the solution isn't a perfect one either. Randoms have bad communication, and play at different skill levels. Having in game VOIP, and an MMR/ELO system can help that... but again it's not perfect but each step brings the whole things closer to a perfect system.

And no I'm not so delusional that I think any of this stuff will ever happen for WAR, just using examples.

Spoiler:

I really wish scs had in game VOIP so I could yell at people tho, and hear Russians screaming CYKA rush crypt blyat

[peterthepan3]

HAHAHA ^ A VOIP in scens would be akin to CS:GO pug matches.

[Tesq]

im not obstructi....-(big complex word you like to use) anyone,i just have a vison of sc which is different from yours man.... Also i said if it is at least one......... it dosen't kinda fell like a lot of trouble have 1 sc that way, i still gona "queue all" for the sake of doing fast, just gona not when there is really 0 fight with sc end 500-0 and i just wanna do some fast SCs.

[peterthepan3]

your vision would result in the removal of premades altogether from scenarios. nice vision.

[Liandel]

The segregation of pugs vs premades would only result in wait times for pops being extremely long and it would screw players who play in non-peak times out of scenarios entirely.

~Liandel
RR38 WL of <Obliteration>

[spikespiegel84]

When you pug just take your own performance as an indicator not if you lose to premades. Win or lose if you did well thats ok just keep getting better. Ive seen the best premades absolutely trashed when the stars align and the best pug players end up together.

Basically when TS crashes and the players never played together before.

[Tesq]

your vision would result in the removal of premades altogether from scenarios. nice vision.

i dont think currently there are so few premades around, you can anyway try to ask when other premade gona queue so that you have some one to play with....

You know in live guilds of opposite faction looked to when enemys had their rvr night to just be able to have nice and balanced fights
So It does just feel like an exscuse for me. You fear pug queue cos you wont be able to farm ppl not because you not gona have pop or such.... you can also just decide a spot to have organized 6 vs 6 as exemple and this is just 1 additional option.....there are anyway ways to implement a low pop sc for few ppl while most still go in the mixed scenarios to just give some pause to the farmed ones cycling ppl that queue for that sc....

As last consideration If you are the type of preamdes that like to win some sc 500-0 doing 12 kill and then wait for 5 min and reapeat the whole thing again and again with almost 0 challenge.......you have some problem anyway( i am not speaking of you in particular, just generaly). Btw you are alredy damaging your pop as farmed ppl stop queue for sc.

[peterthepan3]

fear pug queue? lol. we are only ever interested in premade vs premades in our scenarios. not our fault not many people queue CW.
we want a challenge, it's just people are too caught up solo queuing for scenarios and whining instead of fixing groups together themselves and looking for a challenge as well.

6v6 scenarios are a part of the game, bro.

[Razid1987]

we are only ever interested in premade vs premades in our scenarios. not our fault not many people queue CW.

Guess there's not a lot of "6-man"-guilds in this 6-man game.

we want a challenge, it's just people are too caught up solo queuing for scenarios and whining instead of fixing groups together themselves and looking for a challenge as well.

Or maybe most people just prefer to do ORvR instead?

Nah, that's just crazy talk...