Can we get an explantion about the T2 rats?

[Penril]

Bloodi is right. I remember the Highpass champ rats on live... there was only one spot of rats back then, so both realms would constantly fight for the spot. It wasn't rare seeing messages like this on chat: "group of order grinding rats, come wipe them!!!!".

Maybe if there was a group of champ NPC's in the middle of the lake? And only ONE group of champs in the whole lake. They could be Orange (neutral) NPC's so they don't annoy people who are just passing by and doing RvR.

[bloodi]

I always loved how in Daoc grinding in the rvr zone gave you bonuses, making it a much better spot but meant you had to deal with attackers from other realms.

That was the idea behind the rat spot in rvr imo.

[Penril]

I always loved how in Daoc grinding in the rvr zone gave you bonuses, making it a much better spot but meant you had to deal with attackers from other realms.

That was the idea behind the rat spot in rvr imo.

Also, the rats close to the WC's in tier 3 used to be regular mobs on live. They weren't champs (except for 1 Skaven). As i mentioned, there was only one spot with champ rats.

[Nastylicious]

i think that everyone is trying to rush to t4 (endgame) that is why the lower soon will have less ppl in it i mean the t4 has been out 1 week soon ? or iam i wrong ppl should try enjoy the game then rush things just a tought on that i might be wrong too not a whine but destro is still lucky having city to farm all day long without fighting just had to admit it i did it too for some days now and its not a lie we can do it on destro order cant

[deslage]

Either way I think 3 tiers is much better than 4 atm.

[Nameless]

the thing is that some of the new changes that came with t4, promote pveing tru lower tiers and leaving the pvp for t4

[salaino]

I understand where you are coming from taking out the T2 rats. People actually took a keep last night around 10pm, est but there's nothing to do in T2-T3 now from like 11:30 to 3am est at all in lower tiers. Was a way for small NA player base to at least be all in one tier faster.

There's other ways to power level, and I'll probably just end up doing those I guess, suck that it's not as fast is all. I always viewed T1 as a great tutorial to the game, you get to learn a lot about it pretty quickly and it not a lot of button. T-2 and T-3 are the tutorials that never seem to end seeing as the game basically doesn't start until 40. The game isn't well balanced in the lower tiers and it just doesn't go fast enough leveling from pvp in them which doesn't make any sense that about that.

Also having people almost guaranteed to be at rats at all hours means you could at least find a fight if you really wanted to. I just think that it shouldn't have been so close to warcamps if you wanted to promote fighting.

TLDR: Until pvp gives at an exp amount that is on par with power leveling, I'll be power leveling. I could never understand why that wasn't the case.

[Daknallbomb]

As i start here on the server level two chars to lev 35 in 5 days without rats or something .... just quests and mob farm and some scs ... dunno where the prob is . looks like ppl dont want to do something to get high lev

[RyanMakara]

So quests are tedious but grinding the same mobs over and over and over is fun? Youre in luck in the PvE areas there are literally thousands and thousands of mobs just waiting for you to farm....

Sorry but the RvR lakes are for RvR not "exciting" grinding.

This is not directed strictly at you. More to the dev team in general. We love the world. We would love nothing more than questing from 1-40. We know you spent a lot of time making these zones ready- But this is a PvP game after all. You want to get to the levelcap. And questing is so much slower even the biggest lover of quests has to consider grinding an option.

What's in the playerbase's interest hasn't been in the database dev team's interest for a long time. I see the absence of rats as a viable grind spot an initiative to go into the PvE aspect of Warhammer, to report bugs there and highlight which quests/PvE incentives need more experience assigned to them to be worthwhile for even a leveling PvP player that would still rather farm the same kind of mob every time since it happens to be in the RvR lake.

[Nameless]

As i start here on the server level two chars to lev 35 in 5 days without rats or something .... just quests and mob farm and some scs ... dunno where the prob is . looks like ppl dont want to do something to get high lev

the problem is that pvp leveling got nerfed and it is far less potent than pve grind AT pvp game... By your reply you proove that again