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Aceboltz
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Please fix terrible embrace

Post#1 » Mon May 16, 2016 8:19 am

So here we are at lv40 and I had the displeasure to discover that terrible embrace is a totally unreliable action at best. Why? Because it is considered a spell and thus can be disrupted. It makes no sense on a melee class.

Fetch is on the physical school and can be parried/blocked, TE is on the magic school and can be disrupted blocked. Why is it so bad then?

-strengh reduces the chance to parry of the ennemy , wl runs with a lot of str. The parry reduction would be different wether it uses the master or the pet's str (make it use the pet str I beg you). However it is intelligence that reduces the chance to disrupt and marauder has 74 int at 40/40 which means the ennemy retains his full disrupt potential.

-disrupt is much more common than parry. Only slayers and dps tanks have a high parry stats, lets put def tanks out of this because if your are trying to TE/pull a tank you are obviously doing it wrong. But almost EVERY dps is running with deft defender lv3 simply because it protects form ranged attacks and spells (and TE). The disrupt rate is further enhanced by willpower and willpower buffs, and the worst part of all: by hold the line. Hold the line increases dodge and disrupt by an other 15%. It doesn't protect against fetch but totally helps against TE making it impossible to pull dat squishy in the front line because he is near his tank.

-You can't parry attacks from your back but you can disrupt them. Yes that's right if the pet is behind his target, fetch will work 100% of the time, nothing comparable for marauder, you get disrupted, period.

-Fetch has a much better implementation but is less usefull for the wl than TE is for the mara thanks to pounce (who needs to pull when there is pouce lol).

This was supposed to be THE destruction unique stuff, changing the meta for the best. Everything was lies and illusions. TE is miles and miles away from the usefullness and reliability of order unique stuff on dps classes like eye shot, crit aura, pounce, bugman finest etc etc.

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kryss
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#2 » Mon May 16, 2016 8:29 am

Not sure if this is blatant trollino or not. I got killer many Times already by TE and won't complain about it. But: fetch is clearly worse, AND really unreliable now due to the f****d Up pet (doesn't attack target ppl from afar, disappears randomly all the time, etcetc). That is something that has to be fixed. Pounce? Ye sure try to pounce in a full wb and out of your guard's reach, and tell me what happens next. Disarmed and deleted in 3 secs

Ps sorry for mispellings, mobile phone with differenti language

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simtex
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#3 » Mon May 16, 2016 8:42 am

This made me cringe.
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Aceboltz
Posts: 254

Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#4 » Mon May 16, 2016 8:45 am

Man you are the one trolling, while bugged you can send the pet, it works. About it disappearing all the time, maybe you are doing something wrong because I don't have this problem. Your argument about pouncing into a wb is totally fallacious, the fact are: gap closing, wl have so much better. And as I explained if you are not a solo scrub, TE has a very very low succes rate if the defensive target is in a wb.
Bring real arguments, and I'm not sorry if the simple truth hurts you.

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Marsares
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#5 » Mon May 16, 2016 8:55 am

Is anyone seriously arguing that Fetch > Terrible Embrace?

Such bad trolling, it's beyond belief.
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Aceboltz
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#6 » Mon May 16, 2016 9:01 am

I used fetch because I though it would make it easier to understand that it needs to be moved to the physical school. But also because the GM seems to to consider it like this. At least the gm I talked to was linking fetch and TB all the time and for him it was balanced becuse fetch has parry/block check and terrible embrace has disrupt/block check.

The important part is not the comparison but the fact that TE is one of the few destro unique stuff and its an unreliable single target crap.

kryss
Posts: 456

Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#7 » Mon May 16, 2016 9:03 am

Sorry mate, wonder if you really play WL. Since T4, the pet is basically for fashion, and many times won't even go after a target, near OR far, unless you attack it too. Try fetch someone with this level of randomness. Ye, sometimes it works, but hearing someone complainin about TE and disrupt... Lol.

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Mizhas
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#8 » Mon May 16, 2016 9:06 am

Stop trying to pull healers and you won't face so much disrupts.

L2P m8.
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gandresch
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#9 » Mon May 16, 2016 9:10 am

Aye since t4 pets atleast the WL is bugged. Like mentioned before it dissapears randomly and very often. It is bad when you get attacked and the pet is gone in that time. And sometimes it comes back once u hit your first attack. I hope it gets fixed soon.
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Bozzax
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#10 » Mon May 16, 2016 9:12 am

Mara TE needs no buff
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