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Bacta
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Re: Increasing RR cap plz read

Post#11 » Mon May 16, 2016 12:47 pm

Lets wait for some balance changes before raising the Renown cap. We aren't even at the ridiculousness of the higher armor sets yet.
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Re: Increasing RR cap plz read

Post#12 » Mon May 16, 2016 12:53 pm

geezereur wrote:And when you guys hit RR 80 its game over you quit?
+1

My thoughts exactly.

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Re: Increasing RR cap plz read

Post#13 » Mon May 16, 2016 1:02 pm

Don't see any reason to increase renown cap. Let people get to R40, get some gear, do some proper RvR and sort out the campaign with some minor class balancing. After that I would advocate slowly raising RR cap.

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Re: Increasing RR cap plz read

Post#14 » Mon May 16, 2016 1:13 pm

Getting to 40 was the goal. Now everything can be tested and balance started. It pointless to let people grind in a meta that isnt going to stay the same. What will happen when some class someone grinds to 80 on gets nerfed? It will make the gold and gear wipe salt seem like nothing. For the balance forums to work we need people not all defending their rr80s.
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Re: Increasing RR cap plz read

Post#15 » Mon May 16, 2016 1:34 pm

not a single reply here was or have thought from any other perspective other then one this server isnt retail will never be exactly like retail and thus my initial thought regarding the rr increase was with that thought in mind there are post by dev's which said they had talked about it so i offered a different insight from a different perspective. The whole getting to 80 and then what is the same as getting to 40 and then what right ? i dont think like that my thought was increasing it with the intent it will take a very very very long time to achieve. but you the community on these forums sure make it very difficult to have such conversations without pouncing on them for once it would be nice to have a constructive conversation when something is posted.

@telen will balancing now not cuase problems later when caps are raised and sets added aka defensive sets or lotd stuff ? i agree that some are not going to enjoy such wipes but i feel that if balancing now with such gear and rr we will hit more obstacles later and such balance changes possibly being reverted thus more salt ?

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Re: Increasing RR cap plz read

Post#16 » Mon May 16, 2016 2:11 pm

odapain wrote:not a single reply here was or have thought from any other perspective other then one this server isnt retail will never be exactly like retail and thus my initial thought regarding the rr increase was with that thought in mind there are post by dev's which said they had talked about it so i offered a different insight from a different perspective. The whole getting to 80 and then what is the same as getting to 40 and then what right ? i dont think like that my thought was increasing it with the intent it will take a very very very long time to achieve. but you the community on these forums sure make it very difficult to have such conversations without pouncing on them for once it would be nice to have a constructive conversation when something is posted.

@telen will balancing now not cuase problems later when caps are raised and sets added aka defensive sets or lotd stuff ? i agree that some are not going to enjoy such wipes but i feel that if balancing now with such gear and rr we will hit more obstacles later and such balance changes possibly being reverted thus more salt ?
Not to be offensive, but I'm reading the exact opposite.

None or very few posts are arguing that this game will not be different than retail. In fact, a lot of posters were stating to let's wait and see before things have stabilised a bit further before RR gets increased, which implies that most people appreciate that this game will be fundamentally different than Live.
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Re: Increasing RR cap plz read

Post#17 » Mon May 16, 2016 2:12 pm

A good side effect of keeping the current RR cap is that more get experience from playing multiple classes. Even multiple different classes within an archetype and/or both realms.

This in turn will hopefully make balancing less of a pie fight since most players are less one-class-biased.
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Re: Increasing RR cap plz read

Post#18 » Mon May 16, 2016 2:17 pm

odapain wrote:with current release of T4 and its current state in lakes i know its something that has been talked about amoung players and the dev's many times but i wanted to add my thoughts and sugestion with reasoning for a discussion.

raise the rr cap to 80 but increase the amount needed to lvl by 3-4x its current value

i dont want it to be over with fast like it was on retail after 100 release i liked it before when you knew the ppl that was high rr they stood out as it was a grind.

as it is now 40 is over with before you know it.

now here is some food for thought current state of lakes is alot of xrealming zerging and i honestly think a raise in RR would ease the xrealming and encourage zone fliping which would lead to more fighting ect becuase people will want reknown on there chosen main if its something that is going to take a long time you wouldnt want to waste it switching sides all time for most part there will ofc be those that still do but i think it wouldnt be as many.

i have just finished my sorc after a few days playing it to 40/40 with full anni and all inf rewards ( staff from greenskins tomorrow need 5k inf ) the character im really enjoying is now loosing its reasoning to play ( being a person that wants progress wants to see something gained when i kill ect ) so im messing around with alts which are all rr40 too just not lvl 40 yet. this spared me on to make this post as everyone that sits and chats in my stream all agree and i think alot of the server itself would also love to see this implemented.

i read in another post that the devs have been recantly discussing ways to implement the raise to RR with possible wipe with new sets comming ect. either i guess works for me tho i would preffer it just taking a lot longer months and months rather then just raising it then capping again fast for it to be reset when new set comes if that makes sense.

i honestly think there are more Pro's then Con's to raising the cap now we have t4.
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Re: Increasing RR cap plz read

Post#19 » Mon May 16, 2016 3:01 pm

Marsares wrote: Why push out everything in once? Enjoy the journey, not the destination.
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Re: Increasing RR cap plz read

Post#20 » Mon May 16, 2016 3:06 pm

Shadowgurke wrote:
Marsares wrote: Why push out everything in once? Enjoy the journey, not the destination.
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There is only one journey!
Try running a marathon like that. That'd be a journey!
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