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Aceboltz
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#41 » Tue May 17, 2016 6:58 am

Pounce was bugged on live you could pounce and be out of range of your target if it was running away, white lions were using much more ap and dealt less damage, here on ror both the master and the pet instantly warps on you all the time.

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Bretin
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#42 » Tue May 17, 2016 7:34 am

mhh... since we are discussing upcoming marauder buffs. I'd like to suggest a buff to the ability "Mutated Aggressor". The problem with this ability is its uptime. Let me explain this: Mutated Aggressor is a 25% damage buff with 10 s uptime on a 1 min CD. For order, especially the knight, it is easy to see when a Marauder pops MA. Due to the latest changes to Dirty Tricks which grants a superior vision to the buff/debuff tracker of his enemy, the knight is able to single handly control the marauder when popping Mutated Aggressor. That leads to such an imbalance between the realms it is not even funny. I mean the Knight can super punt, knockdown and has a superior view on the buff tracker of his enemy. Comparing that to the Black Orc who got nerfed with the new designed Mercenary helmet when it comes to Vision Control, it's seriously unfair. Anyway to compensate this major realm balance issue i'd like to suggest a reduced cooldown on Mutated Aggressor. I thought about 10s to bring it in line with the SW's VoN. Let me explain: When we compare the archetype "stance classes" we have to compare the SW with the Marauder. Both have access to a core range knockdown and an damage modifier. Not only that the SW got his requirement removed on the range kd long time before, no he also get his damage modifier as a base ability while the marauder has to spec into the Path of Brutality. VoN is so superior when compared to MA it is insane: 30 s CD, same damage buff, same uptime and all that on a range dps class. the marauder has to go in and risk his life + he can be cc'd, the SW can free cast. WTF? PLEASE AZARAEL STOP BIASED!

Aceboltz
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#43 » Tue May 17, 2016 7:54 am

It's not Azarael's fault but mutated agressors seems lackluster to me too mainly because it triggers a gcd and not VoN, and also costs a mastery point.

Marauder has a lot of important debuffs to put ASAP on the main target, it's really hard to find the right time to pop mutated agressor and fericous assault; for me FA is usually prefered thanks to its convenient uptime and his defensive use. But this will be an other discussion.

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Marsares
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#44 » Tue May 17, 2016 7:58 am

Line hook and sinker. LOL. Well played, Bretin.
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Aceboltz
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#45 » Tue May 17, 2016 8:01 am

well if you don't add other explanations this post will look like Bretin advocating for a mara buff and stay like this. hehe.

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Tesq
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#46 » Tue May 17, 2016 8:04 am

wl pet need a fix not mara pull a buff...

wl pet so dam swoopy that i cannot even tab the white lion...... while he move the pet keep get in the tab way, with out add that the pet it's too faster even if you snare it, you cannot kite it in anyway!
These 2 stuff make wl pull a lot better than mara currently.
With considering any bugs that mara pull had and can still have right now.
Pulling from wall.....yes.....as see a damnit ray of light pop onto you could not think to make you go los, while pet just pass throught tha damnit walls XD
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Marsares
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#47 » Tue May 17, 2016 8:07 am

You are aware that the pet may be able to get onto walls, for Fetch to be activated the player stills needs to have LOS of his target? Not saying that Mara pulls / WL fetches from walls are right (both should be fixed), but the amount of misinformed opinion and blatant propaganda in this thread is mind boggling.
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Liandel
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#48 » Tue May 17, 2016 8:35 am

Marsares wrote:You are aware that the pet may be able to get onto walls, for Fetch to be activated the player stills needs to have LOS of his target? Not saying that Mara pulls / WL fetches from walls are right (both should be fixed), but the amount of misinformed opinion and blatant propaganda in this thread is mind boggling.
I only recently came back to WAR, but yeesh, this whole server seems to seethe with anger against WLs in a way live didn't. It seems like a lot of misinformation is out there about how the class works, and the scapegoating is real. Pounce and fetch are being credited with victories on a massive scale. I didn't know that maybe pulling one person every 30 seconds was such a gamechanger in dozens vs dozens fights!
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#49 » Tue May 17, 2016 8:58 am

Azygous wrote:Why would you need fetch when you have unlimited pounce with zero cooldown unlike what was happening in live? Sorry, can't take people playing a broken class as a crutch seriously.

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Bretin
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#50 » Tue May 17, 2016 9:16 am

Marsares wrote:Line hook and sinker. LOL. Well played, Bretin.
lmao that went better than expected.
Tesq wrote:wl pet so dam swoopy that i cannot even tab the white lion......
this thread... pure quality :'D
Tesq wrote:With considering any bugs that mara pull had and can still have right now.
what exactly is bugged? i didn't play my marauder much during the last few days because his damage is pretty bad and due to the order biased mindset we decided to give order a try again with double kotbs and double slayer. it's very fun so far. but since i would like to play marauder again once it got fixed, i am really curios about those bugs.

Liandel wrote:I only recently came back to WAR, but yeesh, this whole server seems to seethe with anger against WLs in a way live didn't.
well that's simply because he became meta after some people proofed that he is whether a gimp nor a bad dps. same with BO/SM. they are top tier classes and i'd pick a WL + WH/SL setup any time over double slayer.

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