Please fix terrible embrace

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Sahngar
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#51 » Tue May 17, 2016 11:21 am

Speaking as a healer who takes DD and has a decent enough amount of WP, I can't agree that TE needs a buff.

Getting pulled 3-4 times a scen into instant death isnt fun, and it isnt a skillful move. Its just a free kill on a 30 sec cooldown that I might disrupt 40% of the time.

At least with the engi/magus pull a group is able to defend itself. I'm just target practicse for whatever sorc or squig who happens to be in the area.

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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#52 » Tue May 17, 2016 12:16 pm

Resolute Defense FTW if works like on live

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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#53 » Tue May 17, 2016 12:58 pm

Loans wrote:Resolute Defense FTW if works like on live
Silence works too on TE.
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#54 » Tue May 17, 2016 1:29 pm

TE needs a nerf and not a buff, it already needed one in AoR.

As with chaotic rift (in AoR) the pulled target shouldn't always land at the feet of the Marauder but only on a x% chance to have the perfect pull. Same for WL fetch btw but here, there are still the pet & pathing issues.

There are certainly other ways to have TE and fetch balanced out but that's a discussion for later on.
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#55 » Tue May 17, 2016 1:49 pm

The thing with TE is its a tool the class needs against kiters. Order have ranged kd. Its just, as with rkd, its effectiveness scales with fight size. Really though if festerbomb was deemed too op with a 3s cast its likely TE and rkd will both be looked at.
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#56 » Tue May 17, 2016 1:51 pm

Would a name change to "Alright Embrace" be enough of a fix for you?

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Nidwin
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#57 » Tue May 17, 2016 1:57 pm

Telen

And destro has plenty of ranged cc too or combos that are nearly guarenteed a kill if properly executed.

Two that I can think of right now
Ranged stagger on Zealot
Rift + perma snare on Magus
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#58 » Tue May 17, 2016 2:05 pm

Aceboltz wrote:SBecause it is considered a spell and thus can be disrupted. It makes no sense on a melee class.

Fetch is on the physical school and can be parried/blocked, TE is on the magic school and can be disrupted blocked. Why is it so bad then?

-Fetch has a much better implementation but is less usefull for the wl than TE is for the mara thanks to pounce (who needs to pull when there is pouce lol).
1. Just Wondering if you have even tought aboult considering that Mara is the best MDPS for SCS due to this ability?
2. Fetch is a bit buggy works a bit to well sometimes and other times it works for jack #### for what iv seen.
3. TE need a buff? Naa, we can move and use its not for all targets like u said ur self works as intended (with minor flaws)
Flaws being SW can dash out of it mid air WL can pounce out of it.
Other then that no complains on it from my side,

(OFFTOPIC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooM9gSl-mXY ) Also fetch WAS removed on live. and you could never compare it to a Mara pull due to stupid range etc. ( This is not the case here on server ) so my opinion is be happy its not like live before WL got nerfed to the ground.
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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#59 » Tue May 17, 2016 2:47 pm

magicthighs wrote:Silence works too on TE.
so does taunt but tanks have to use it for damage. why would you ever waste it on TE or a rez when it is such a strong damage component which synergyzes just perfectly fine with heavy blow, ether dance or precision strike?

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Re: Please fix terrible embrace

Post#60 » Tue May 17, 2016 3:00 pm

Bretin wrote:why would you ever waste it on TE or a rez when it is such a strong damage component which synergyzes just perfectly fine with heavy blow, ether dance or precision strike?
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