[Sorcerer] rank40 rr40 builds

[Bretin]

3)It did however get migrated by spirit resistance

if you'd read the tooltip of SoD you'd find the explanation for this my friend...deals x Spirit Damage. you want it to be morale dmg?

Why Swell of Gloom is bad?
1)It don't crt
2) It do scale with int however but also migrated by toughness
3)It also get migrated by spirit resistance
4) So in T4 (assuming 900int against toughness 238(squishy, max resis)), you will hit approx 438x0.6=262.8dmg
5)However THE MAIN 3 REASONS IT IS BAD (i) IS You get hit for 750dmg for that....
6)YOU NEED A TACTIC SLOT
7)YOU NEED extra 4 SPEC PT TO SPEC FOR IT.

calling swell of gloom bad is even worse than speccing SOD over ID. if it would crit it would be ridiculous op. the tactic adds an additional 100% tooltip damage to your Gloomburst. calling this bad is beyond odd sorry. the tactic is a 100% must have and something which grants the sorc an edge over the BW in terms of ST burst - therefor she lacks utility.

Why Echo of power?(It is not a must have, you can leave it and spec other things.)
1)It crt and It scale with int, (It did get migrated as well)
2)It instant, you can cast on the run

it has an requirement, deals mediocre damage and is really nothing you can rely on.

last but not least: Infernal Gift is mediocre when playing ST. Whether does it proc on a regular base nor will it affect your own damage. As confusing as it might sound to some people: the sorc is the best pug killer ingame. that's why you optimize your own one shot potential instead of getting a buff you really can't rely on. hence why you want swell of gloom.

[Aceboltz]

T4 sorcerer suxx. It's dull, repetitive and you face 90% premades. In orvr both magus and SH are more fun and better suited.

[Bretin]

T4 sorcerer suxx. It's dull, repetitive and you face 90% premades. In orvr both magus and SH are more fun and better suited.

another useful comment coming from you, great! you are an enrichment for this forum

[kok]

if you'd read the tooltip of SoD you'd find the explanation for this my friend...deals x Spirit Damage. you want it to be morale dmg?

That why it is bad. If it don't crt and doesn't scale, the base dmg should be higher.

calling swell of gloom bad is even worse than speccing SOD over ID. if it would crit it would be ridiculous op. the tactic adds an additional 100% tooltip damage to your Gloomburst. calling this bad is beyond odd sorry. the tactic is a 100% must have and something which grants the sorc an edge over the BW in terms of ST burst - therefor she lacks utility.

An extra 200~500++ dmg every 5sec is a must-have ? I mean seriously...You are joking right?
Why not take frozen Fury tactic then, It do more or less the same dmg , don't need to spec for and no backlash
And for your info :Anything that don't crt for sorcerer is bad (unless it is free )

it has an requirement, deals mediocre damage and is really nothing you can rely on.

Echo of power do 2x more dmg than your "must have" Swell of Gloom if it crt.
A Echo of power that crt do more dmg than your Gloombrust +Swell combined if both of them did not crt.
Disrupt happen often enough for it to do about 5~15% of my dmg. Not mediocre in any sense.

last but not least: Infernal Gift is mediocre when playing ST. Whether does it proc on a regular base nor will it affect your own damage. As confusing as it might sound to some people: the sorc is the best pug killer ingame. that's why you optimize your own one shot potential instead of getting a buff you really can't rely on. hence why you want swell of gloom.

Infernal Gift is used in group, It seem to proc off every spell you cast .
For your info:Best pug killer is SH .
As much as you look down on pug, Pug do heal their group and support them, What get them killed is often heal debuff since pug don't communicate and therefore don't remove it from others.
If you think you are doing a lot of KB while doing less dmg than the top 5, it is due to Frozen touch stealing the kills.
Of course if you are doing 1.5x or 2x the next highest dmg, that is an entire different story.

[Jail]

http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=sor ... 8:;0:0:0:0:

[noisestorm]

if you have no trust in your healers you also can run with
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=sor ... 8:;0:0:0:0:
if you have the setbonus from merc

[Zegota]

I'm not sure why are people trying to reinvent the wheel. There's only one effective st spec, and it's the one that Bretin posted. You're not there to do st pressure, your job is to do as much dmg as you can in smallest time frame possible. That's why you have to use Swell of Gloom, cause it adds ~500 more dmg to a single time stamp. Also it maximizes your front loaded burst, cause anyone with half a brain can see when you start the rotation on them.
But I do prefer to use the Infernal Gift instead, when I'm in a 3dps party, or Glorious Carnage for pugging and when you want the FM immunity available as fast as possible.

[Bretin]

An extra 200~500++ dmg every 5sec is a must-have ? I mean seriously...You are joking right?

~550 damage in ONE TIMESTAMP WITHOUT THE REQUIREMENT OF A GCD against a non guarded target is idd bad. especially in a state where dps do only have ~5500 hp. it is so **** bad i don't even know why i suggested it.

And for your info :Anything that don't crt for sorcerer is bad (unless it is free )

for your info: i am not taking advice from you and i recommend none here should.

Echo of power do 2x more dmg than your "must have" Swell of Gloom if it crt.

you don't get it, do you? it is in a different timestamp due to the GCD, hence why it is bad. + it has an requirement. that's nothing you want as a sorc. as Zegota said: it's about the damage in ONE timestamp not in 5, if you want sustain, go play squig.

A Echo of power that crt do more dmg than your Gloombrust +Swell combined if both of them did not crt.

291+291 (of which one can crit) vs 291. your math is on fire my friend.

Disrupt happen often enough for it to do about 5~15% of my dmg. Not mediocre in any sense.

The solution: stop focussing them heal0rz bru, it is a common missinformation to go for healer first and not very smart at all.

Infernal Gift is used in group, It seem to proc off every spell you cast .

you can use it if necessary in group play but i really don't think it is and you are better off playing a bit more egoistic but that is a matter of preference and the group you are in. in a 6vs6 i'd slot it for sure but that doesn't happen very often.

For your info:Best pug killer is SH .
As much as you look down on pug, Pug do heal their group and support them, What get them killed is often heal debuff since pug don't communicate and therefore don't remove it from others.

SH is not even close to be as effective as a sorc against pugs and the great support you seem to receive in pug sc's is for sure a miracle which only exists in your world.

If you think you are doing a lot of KB while doing less dmg than the top 5, it is due to Frozen touch stealing the kills.
Of course if you are doing 1.5x or 2x the next highest dmg, that is an entire different story.

Frozen Touch does not "steal" kills and it counts for the group member not for the sorc, nice information there (again).

[Telen]

Swell of Gloom is a must

The only benefit SH has is their hdb isnt cleansed by WP so dont suffer as much from double WP groups

[mursie]

+ 1 to Bretins Post

this is correct.