scenarios 6vs6. Archmage or swordmaster

[Mantiyeah]

Hello,

I am rolling at the moment a witch hunter and an engineer. Both focused mainly for orvr

I want to make a new character for scenarios and I am considering about an elf class. The problém that I see is that most groups look for a WP+RP combo or just WP+WP.
Do you think that an archmage would have problems looking for good premade scenarios ? Dps or healing, prefered healing though.
Are they viable?

Same problém with swordmaster...KOTBS seem to be much better at the moment.

[Telen]

Neither make it into the perfect t4 melee train but so what. Play what you like. Balance forums are coming and the devs have stated they want every class to have a place.

[roadkillrobin]

Swordmaster do fairly well in the melee trains. But tbh aslong as you can use an assist macro and have a knockdown it doesn't really mather what tank you bring.

[Bretin]

Neither make it into the perfect t4 melee train but so what. Play what you like. Balance forums are coming and the devs have stated they want every class to have a place.

SM is already in his place and a part of the "perfect" t4 melee train.

[DefinitelyNotWingz]

Neither make it into the perfect t4 melee train but so what. Play what you like. Balance forums are coming and the devs have stated they want every class to have a place.

SM is already in his place and a part of the "perfect" t4 melee train.

And so Am is part of the perfect ranged setup 1-3-2.

[noisestorm]

You can get pretty much every group to work if your players and style are adapted to it.
If you play with WP+AM, you have to somewhat play differently, since the AM cannot facetank enemies like rp/wp can. On the other hand the healoutput of an AM that is not pressured can be immensively high. Also the AM does not really provide group utility like AP-rune, groupabsorbs or other buffs, but instead has a ridiculously strong 100feet aoe snarepit that even debuffs tons of initiative, epic AP drain, aoe toughness/mainstat debuffs or a gimmicky moralepush tactic. You can even specc for the 50% inc healdebuff with higher RRs and help your other DDs.

SM makes like the perfect assisttank for a WL if you run with one. Spirit debuff, cd reduction and perma slow provide your WL with a huge chunk of extra damage due to the lionfury tactic. Also your tanks(or WH) can use shatter enchant/sever blessing on gcd to completely strip enemies of all hots/buffs. Whispering Wind is not 'just' the only good skill a SM brings to the party though. The disorient from Dazzling Strike can work wonders on single/gheal spamming zealots/shamies if they dont realise that theyre debuffed (yes - baddies still keep casting that sh*t). You can(imo should) also get the 25% crit chance debuff tactic, which greatly reduces healing/damage done by your target for the next 10 seconds. Your m2 Wings of Heaven is also a WLs pounce on steroids with an 60% aoe snare for 10 seconds.

Those classes aint as bad as ppl wanna make em look. They're just different for different playstyles and setups. Nonetheless both of them could still get a few minor tweaks imo

[Mantiyeah]

It seems nice then, I will just play them anyways I guess and try to find a team.

Which one would have easier times finding a team usually though for small scale t4?

Swrodmaster or archmage?

[noisestorm]

Probably both as easy/hard. Allthough i get the feeling tanks are generally less played, but that could be plain imagination

[mursie]

Swrodmaster or archmage?

between the two, I'd say swordmaster.

It has been proven to have beaten the predominant destro meta 6v6 comp.

https://www.twitch.tv/stenchypow/v/61452718

Archmage just isn't proven at the moment in 6v6 meta.

[DefinitelyNotWingz]

Swrodmaster or archmage?

between the two, I'd say swordmaster.

It has been proven to have beaten the predominant destro meta 6v6 comp.

https://www.twitch.tv/stenchypow/v/61452718

Archmage just isn't proven at the moment in 6v6 meta.

Stop the salt already mursi. Tiring to see you flaming us in every of your horrible posts.