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wargrimnir
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Re: Lower Tier RVR

Post#21 » Thu May 26, 2016 7:53 pm

Kelthas wrote:
wargrimnir wrote:
You're welcome to leave for a couple weeks while we work out the RvR system now that T4 is online.
Yes leaving when disagreeing with something is the easy answer. Sounds you don't want to know what your playerbase wants. What exactly is the rvr system you are going to implement?
If you really think we're going to coddle you and make you feel better in a thread based on whine, you've got another thing coming. Can't handle the development pace of the server? Then take a break.
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Re: Lower Tier RVR

Post#22 » Thu May 26, 2016 8:27 pm

Gorwe wrote:I agree with Kel...even suggesting leaving is a NO for a GM / mod!

Unless, you are doing all of this for a select few people, hm?

Farming creeps is EQ1 era. EQ1!!! WAKE UP! WHO WANTS THIS?
If I were you I'd pipe down real fast.
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Re: Lower Tier RVR

Post#23 » Thu May 26, 2016 8:32 pm

wargrimnir wrote:
Kelthas wrote:
wargrimnir wrote:
You're welcome to leave for a couple weeks while we work out the RvR system now that T4 is online.
Yes leaving when disagreeing with something is the easy answer. Sounds you don't want to know what your playerbase wants. What exactly is the rvr system you are going to implement?
If you really think we're going to coddle you and make you feel better in a thread based on whine, you've got another thing coming. Can't handle the development pace of the server? Then take a break.
You my good sir, need to learn a thing about public speaking. You are just alienating potential players. And if you don't care about how you come across? ...maybe you shouldn't be a GM then. There are requirements you know...public relations aren't for everyone, yknow?

This is how you should've said this:

"Yes, my bad for coming out wrong. Your comment has been heard and noted(we take the comments of our players VERY SERIOUSLY). If we receive enough similar comments, we will expedite the work on this particular segment of a game. And as always:

Have fun!"

But something tells me you will not understand what I did there(or won't care bout it, the same). And, it's my understanding that a scant few players even care about development schedules etc. They only care when they can play, when they can't play and what they can / can't play.

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Re: Lower Tier RVR

Post#24 » Thu May 26, 2016 8:35 pm

magicthighs wrote:
Gorwe wrote:I agree with Kel...even suggesting leaving is a NO for a GM / mod!

Unless, you are doing all of this for a select few people, hm?

Farming creeps is EQ1 era. EQ1!!! WAKE UP! WHO WANTS THIS?
If I were you I'd pipe down real fast.
I don't take kindly to threats tyvm! Or orders for that matter.

And it is in your best interest not to anger me because I can spread bad words fast. Therefore alienating whomever might even think of joining.

edit: when did this place become so...authoritarian? I remember it being much less so a year ago(and even less so before it)...
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Re: Lower Tier RVR

Post#25 » Thu May 26, 2016 8:36 pm

Not the first, nor last time, we will deal with a player like this. Clearly this is an alt account, created long ago, and now used for trolling the forums. If you want to have a shitty opinion about how beholden we are to the playerbase, feel free to bring your main.

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Gorwe Khrund Dwarf Ironbreaker 1/1
Gorwe Rodakh Dwarf Slayer 1/1
Gorwe Sinwe High Elf Swordmaster 1/1
Gorwe Valther Empire Knight of the Blazing Sun 10/9
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Re: Lower Tier RVR

Post#26 » Thu May 26, 2016 8:38 pm

wargrimnir wrote:Not the first, nor last time, we will deal with a player like this.
Do it, I double dare you.

I have no respect for authoritarian megalomaniacs.

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Re: Lower Tier RVR

Post#27 » Thu May 26, 2016 8:43 pm

Gorwe wrote:
wargrimnir wrote:Not the first, nor last time, we will deal with a player like this.
Do it, I double dare you.

I have no respect for authoritarian megalomaniacs.
Okay.
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Re: Lower Tier RVR

Post#28 » Thu May 26, 2016 8:49 pm

Gorwe wrote:
magicthighs wrote:
Gorwe wrote:I agree with Kel...even suggesting leaving is a NO for a GM / mod!

Unless, you are doing all of this for a select few people, hm?

Farming creeps is EQ1 era. EQ1!!! WAKE UP! WHO WANTS THIS?
If I were you I'd pipe down real fast.
I don't take kindly to threats tyvm! Or orders for that matter.

And it is in your best interest not to anger me because I can spread bad words fast. Therefore alienating whomever might even think of joining.

edit: when did this place become so...authoritarian? I remember it being much less so a year ago(and even less so before it)...
Firstly, feel free to spread all the publicity you want. The first thing people think when seeing vitriolic rants out of context about a game they might play is: What's this guy's motive? Is he salty? Can I trust him? So no, I'm not actually worried about your "bad publicity", and I'd also like to point out that we're not even courting publicity or players at the moment because we're still in alpha state and expect the vast majority of potential players to be unwilling to tolerate the state of the server.

Secondly - if you can't or won't respect staff instructions - you will be removed. The policy of this staff with regard to threats and other wilful behaviour is very simple; we will ignore any attempts to influence us, no matter the cost. We will always, always apply the appropriate sanction, no matter who you are and no matter what the cost of doing so may be to us.

Thirdly - GMs are not PR. They're there to provide assistance with game issues outside of the forum / Advice chat scope and to enforce server rules, so don't bother lecturing them about PR - because it's not their role to care.

Fourth, and this is highly personal:

You are nothing special.

You are one individual opinionated player. Nothing more than that. A loud voice doesn't change this fact. If this place isn't right for you, you can quite happily go and you will not be missed, because while losing good, respectful members of the community is a tragedy and I hope no one thinks otherwise, losing the whiny ones is a mercy. You are not in charge here, and you do not get to decide whether orders apply to you or not. They do. Lose the disgusting arrogance, because you have no justification whatsoever for holding it.

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Re: Lower Tier RVR

Post#29 » Thu May 26, 2016 8:57 pm

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Re: Lower Tier RVR

Post#30 » Thu May 26, 2016 8:58 pm

Gorwe wrote: You my good sir, need to learn a thing about public speaking. You are just alienating potential players. And if you don't care about how you come across? ...maybe you shouldn't be a GM then. There are requirements you know...public relations aren't for everyone, yknow?

This is how you should've said this:

"Yes, my bad for coming out wrong. Your comment has been heard and noted(we take the comments of our players VERY SERIOUSLY). If we receive enough similar comments, we will expedite the work on this particular segment of a game. And as always:

Have fun!"

But something tells me you will not understand what I did there(or won't care bout it, the same). And, it's my understanding that a scant few players even care about development schedules etc. They only care when they can play, when they can't play and what they can / can't play.
What you did there?
Creating a post of an eel. This is your everyday 'Hey, make this guy feel comfortable, without saying anything special, nor granting him any right to take any action. Just make him feel allmighty, since he - convinced - us.'

You want to be talked to like that? I'd rather know, GMs and Devs are real ppl, instead of answer-bots that will always try to minimize infos, while comforting me and my pride.

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