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Tankbeardz
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KOTBS Runefang Parry

Post#1 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:08 am

While messing around, I noticed that Runefang buffed my WS but my parry stayed the same. Is this a game bug or is WS not contributing to parry correctly? Has anyone else noticed this? Thanks.

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Re: KOTBS Runefang Parry

Post#2 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:36 am

Hadn't notice that actually... Myabe it just doesn't update the char sheet?

Have you tried using .getstats after it procs?

I know the Ini DOES affect your chance to be crit. But I never actually checked to see if it hit dodge/parry. A, I just assumed it does, and B, WS parry is bypassed by STR, so I don't rely on it for my calcs.
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Gachimuchi
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Re: KOTBS Runefang Parry

Post#3 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:25 am

Due to the way defense calculations work and the fact most dps attempt to softcap their attacking stat, your defensive stat will always be lower than their attacking stat, so your defense from ws/initiative/willpower will be close to 0. That isn't to say it doesn't provide any defense in all situations... tanks, for example, with low strength have higher chance to be parried if you have higher ws than their strength.

WS does increase your chance to parry guard damage however but a slight amount. Try it yourself.
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Re: KOTBS Runefang Parry

Post#4 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:33 am

did you use .getstats ? character sheet isn't reliable.
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noisestorm
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Re: KOTBS Runefang Parry

Post#5 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:49 am

You will not see any change in the %parry shown in .getsats either. Getstats will only provide info of direct% from skills/tactics+ equip + RR specc. The bonus from WS,WP or Ini will not be added to the shown dodge/disrupt/parry in getstats either, but the bonus you get from those stats is marginal anyways

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Crenshaw
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Re: KOTBS Runefang Parry

Post#6 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:34 am

I use addon Statdoll that dynamicly shows changing stats, so if the formulas there are correct, runefang gives hefty amount of parry%. It only implifies to guard damage since it isnt affected by enemy strenght iirc. If those are correct with runefang, epic weapon proc and m2 up i have around 85% parry before strenght mitigation, which does not affect guard tho. My personal feelings are that it actually is about that amount since i always guard some melee and can hold for a long time + my screen is flooded by parrying from guard.

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noisestorm
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Re: KOTBS Runefang Parry

Post#7 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:15 am

Why would you even mention your m2 when it gives nothing that affects your parry? :o
Also i highly doubt that you get anywhere near 50% parry as kotbs at all.
lets say you have 18% from RR, 3% from ring and about ~10% base+runefang procc (which is already more than you probably have anyways). Your 2h weapon procc gives another 10% so we are somewhere around 41-43% depending on if you have more items with %parry on them.

If you were a chosen on the other hand 80% would be nothing abnormal :^)

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Crenshaw
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Re: KOTBS Runefang Parry

Post#8 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:23 am

Yeah, i had older version of statdoll with incorrect values of % gained from stats, my bad.

These are correct values out of combat and with runefang and weapon proc, sorry for my miscalculated last post.
Numbers on right are % gained from stats. Also here i have 72 ws less, since i put that renown into disrput and dodge.

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Re: KOTBS Runefang Parry

Post#9 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:38 am

Crenshaw wrote:Yeah, i had older version of statdoll with incorrect values of % gained from stats, my bad.

These are correct values out of combat and with runefang and weapon proc, sorry for my miscalculated last post.
Numbers on right are % gained from stats. Also here i have 72 ws less, since i put that renown into disrput and dodge.

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Does the kotbs really have 222 Intelligence and 157 willpower or is there something wrong with those stats? Or is your toon just equipped with some weirdly itemised gear?

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noisestorm
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Re: KOTBS Runefang Parry

Post#10 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:39 am

Not sure what that addon usesfor its calc, but a 240 increase in WS should definitely not add 17% parry to your statdoll. its in fact about 5% more if you consider it for guard alone and dont factor any enemy STR into it.
Nonetheless i wonder where you get 40% "unbuffed" from?

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