Firefly, former Mythic Employee

[stillwaterww]

As a rule I tend not to tell people what I do/did, simply because I'm not interested in more neckbeards singling me out any more than they already are.

Just curious why you bothered to mention it in the thread title then? You should expect a lot of toxicity towards you from this community when it comes to that sadly. Do you have any proof you are who you claim to be or just a claim? Just curious is all.

Yes this question has floated to mind all the while reading all 9 pages of your introduction. It also doesn't look to me like you are saying anything that's not allready common knowledge somewhere around here. You make a pretty bold claim to who you are or were in professional life and yet do not back it up with any proof whatsoever. I just fail to see what you would gain making this claim and why you would make it in the first place. Smells fishy to me.

[Firefly]

Just curious why you bothered to mention it in the thread title then? You should expect a lot of toxicity towards you from this community when it comes to that sadly. Do you have any proof you are who you claim to be or just a claim? Just curious is all.

Ask a lawyer what he does and he'd probably tell you he's a lawyer when in fact he's an entertainment lawyer who specialises in contract negotiations for unsigned artists. But WTF does that guy do, and does he care about explaining the nuances of his job? I adopted the same approach to particulars of my dev career *with regards to internet forums*. The average player isn't going to know all of the fancy sub-categories of a development job: there are artists, there are modelers, there are terrain- and world-builders, there are writers, there are musicians, there are systems engineers, there are coders and programmers and people I don't know what they do, there are people like Paul Barnett who had no actual purpose other than the studio equivalent of a Rap Group Hype Man, only ours had red shoes and told stupid jokes about custard. Any one of them can call themselves a dev. Then there are also CSRs, there are community managers, accountants, lawyers, HR people, yada yada. So if I told you that I was a Strike Team Specialist for Engineering, you'd *probably* be like "Huh? WTF is that?" or if I said I was a lead writer, you probably wouldn't understand that, either. Maybe you do. But the average person doesn't. Conversely, in a conversation face-to-face, it might be a lot easier to explain in layman's terms. Or I could be talking to a console peasant at a trade show and I'd just tell them 'dev' to keep it simple.

As far as proving myself, if you're just curious then hypothetically I'm sure if I told you my name you could look me up on Facebook and see my employment credentials, as well as look at any known Mythic employee and see me as a mutual friend of like 156 people. Or I could take a selfie with my EA-Mythic paystubs that I've kept because my ex-wife and I keep going back to court and I have to have paystubs for the past ten years for some stupid reason. Or I could screenshot three or four private/secret Mythic employee FB groups. Or I could unearth my trove of Mythic swag: probably sixty different t-shirts for UO, DAoC, WAR, and SWTOR that I will likely never wear, the Mythic "letterman" jacket someone thought was a good idea, the amazeballs coffee mugs, the Mythic mousepad I'm still using, the umpteen WAR posters that were on my man-cave wall until I had a kid and needed the space, my WAR boxed set with a miniature, a graphic novel and gameplay book autographed by everyone in the studio... I could point myself out in any number of studio dev-team photos... somewhere I still have my ticket to the Warhammer launch party, where we actually remoted in and restarted a server on someone's iPhone. I could tell you the address for the old Mythic office in Fairfax, rattle off any number of coworkers, tell you what my favourite delivery place was in, tell you about the time I met a couple of dudes from Blue Oyster Cult because they played our game and we recorded a song with them, or met a few other celebs that played the game. What exactly would do it for you, if you were more than curious? A time machine, maybe? We could go back and save the game! Yeah!

Or since my game torrent just finished downloading, I could just run the patcher and try to make myself an Ironbreaker and go play for the first time in five years, since you're just curious and not really insinuating that I'm full of ****. Because why on earth would any sane, rational person come to a game forum and say "yeah I used to be a WAR dev, please throw a bunch of shade my way, I love being insulted and degraded by a few faceless keyboard commandos"?

Yes this question has floated to mind all the while reading all 9 pages of your introduction. It also doesn't look to me like you are saying anything that's not allready common knowledge somewhere around here. You make a pretty bold claim to who you are or were in professional life and yet do not back it up with any proof whatsoever.

Oh man. Sorry. I apologise. I didn't realise I had to validate my existence to you in just casually referencing my connection to the game. Because it looks like so many people come here claiming to be former employees, right?
Get a lot of Stolen Valor dudes floating around here?

I just fail to see what you would gain making this claim and why you would make it in the first place.

If you think it was mentioned for personal gain, you have a sad life. The game is free. I don't want to join the dev team. What other possible benefit would I stand to gain from mentioning it? Hey I know, maybe they'll crownd me king of Altdorf or make me head of a guild, right?

Smells fishy to me.

Noted.

[Azarael]

I'm enjoying this topic more and more with every post.

[Eathisword]

As a rule I tend not to tell people what I do/did, simply because I'm not interested in more neckbeards singling me out any more than they already are.

Just curious why you bothered to mention it in the thread title then? You should expect a lot of toxicity towards you from this community when it comes to that sadly. Do you have any proof you are who you claim to be or just a claim? Just curious is all.

Who cares ? He doesn't plan to help the dev do dev stuff. I am just glad we have a new player. Every new player is a good thing. Especially if they roll destro and play NA time.

Welcome to Firefly, the new player !

Edit : oh crap... Ironbreaker... pwetty please... roll a sorc

[Eggs]

You make a pretty bold claim to who you are or were in professional life and yet do not back it up with any proof whatsoever. I just fail to see what you would gain making this claim and why you would make it in the first place. Smells fishy to me.

Elementary school tactics designed to force someone to reveal further personal information. I am disappoint.

OP gave us a name, can write more than a sentence, and genuinely seems to care about the game's legacy, which makes him more of an asset than 95% of the people posting on this forum.

P.S. Maybe check your undies for the source of that fishy smell.

~Eggs

Edit:

my trove of Mythic swag: probably sixty different t-shirts for <snip> WAR

Can I have your stuff?

[Firefly]

Elementary school tactics designed to force someone to reveal further personal information. I am disappoint

Yeah basically this. After watching people in Gamergate get doxxed, and seeing our own employees get harassed on social media, and having bomb threats called into our studio, and people getting called at home because they were dumb enough to have a publicly listed number, there's no **** way whatsoever I have any interest in being anyone's target -- not especially after the few terribad posts aimed at me.

But in the interest of being a good sport (and also a smug look of satisfaction, I will admit), I decided maybe they're right. So I contacted Londo and offered to send him an email with a few pictures of my paystubs taken just now, with this forum thread in the background.

my trove of Mythic swag: probably sixty different t-shirts for <snip> WAR

Can I have your stuff?

Nope.

Edit : oh crap... Ironbreaker... pwetty please... roll a sorc

I rolled an Ironbreaker and a Sorceress.

[Epo]

Spoiler:

Just curious why you bothered to mention it in the thread title then? You should expect a lot of toxicity towards you from this community when it comes to that sadly. Do you have any proof you are who you claim to be or just a claim? Just curious is all.

Ask a lawyer what he does and he'd probably tell you he's a lawyer when in fact he's an entertainment lawyer who specialises in contract negotiations for unsigned artists. But WTF does that guy do, and does he care about explaining the nuances of his job? I adopted the same approach to particulars of my dev career *with regards to internet forums*. The average player isn't going to know all of the fancy sub-categories of a development job: there are artists, there are modelers, there are terrain- and world-builders, there are writers, there are musicians, there are systems engineers, there are coders and programmers and people I don't know what they do, there are people like Paul Barnett who had no actual purpose other than the studio equivalent of a Rap Group Hype Man, only ours had red shoes and told stupid jokes about custard. Any one of them can call themselves a dev. Then there are also CSRs, there are community managers, accountants, lawyers, HR people, yada yada. So if I told you that I was a Strike Team Specialist for Engineering, you'd *probably* be like "Huh? WTF is that?" or if I said I was a lead writer, you probably wouldn't understand that, either. Maybe you do. But the average person doesn't. Conversely, in a conversation face-to-face, it might be a lot easier to explain in layman's terms. Or I could be talking to a console peasant at a trade show and I'd just tell them 'dev' to keep it simple.

As far as proving myself, if you're just curious then hypothetically I'm sure if I told you my name you could look me up on Facebook and see my employment credentials, as well as look at any known Mythic employee and see me as a mutual friend of like 156 people. Or I could take a selfie with my EA-Mythic paystubs that I've kept because my ex-wife and I keep going back to court and I have to have paystubs for the past ten years for some stupid reason. Or I could screenshot three or four private/secret Mythic employee FB groups. Or I could unearth my trove of Mythic swag: probably sixty different t-shirts for UO, DAoC, WAR, and SWTOR that I will likely never wear, the Mythic "letterman" jacket someone thought was a good idea, the amazeballs coffee mugs, the Mythic mousepad I'm still using, the umpteen WAR posters that were on my man-cave wall until I had a kid and needed the space, my WAR boxed set with a miniature, a graphic novel and gameplay book autographed by everyone in the studio... I could point myself out in any number of studio dev-team photos... somewhere I still have my ticket to the Warhammer launch party, where we actually remoted in and restarted a server on someone's iPhone. I could tell you the address for the old Mythic office in Fairfax, rattle off any number of coworkers, tell you what my favourite delivery place was in, tell you about the time I met a couple of dudes from Blue Oyster Cult because they played our game and we recorded a song with them, or met a few other celebs that played the game. What exactly would do it for you, if you were more than curious? A time machine, maybe? We could go back and save the game! Yeah!

Or since my game torrent just finished downloading, I could just run the patcher and try to make myself an Ironbreaker and go play for the first time in five years, since you're just curious and not really insinuating that I'm full of ****. Because why on earth would any sane, rational person come to a game forum and say "yeah I used to be a WAR dev, please throw a bunch of shade my way, I love being insulted and degraded by a few faceless keyboard commandos"?

Yes this question has floated to mind all the while reading all 9 pages of your introduction. It also doesn't look to me like you are saying anything that's not allready common knowledge somewhere around here. You make a pretty bold claim to who you are or were in professional life and yet do not back it up with any proof whatsoever.

Oh man. Sorry. I apologise. I didn't realise I had to validate my existence to you in just casually referencing my connection to the game. Because it looks like so many people come here claiming to be former employees, right?
Get a lot of Stolen Valor dudes floating around here?

I just fail to see what you would gain making this claim and why you would make it in the first place.

If you think it was mentioned for personal gain, you have a sad life. The game is free. I don't want to join the dev team. What other possible benefit would I stand to gain from mentioning it? Hey I know, maybe they'll crownd me king of Altdorf or make me head of a guild, right?

Smells fishy to me.

Noted.

**** hell, easier to trigger you than peterthesixman. Chill out.

[LordTercept]

All the hostility isn't necessary here people. Welcome back to the Waaagh Firefly. I for one appreciate the perspective of someone who used to work on the game coming back to this private server and playing it again.

Perspective here is Key. I think if we all take a step back any logical adult can understand that Firefly is most likely not solely responsible for the downfall of Warhammer.

[Firefly]

**** hell, easier to trigger you than peterthesixman. Chill out.

So wait. You're going to actually attack me and question my integrity, then tell me to chill out after it didn't end up how you thought it would go? What did you expect, for me to do the Dance of Joy? How about you chill out. Nobody asked you to come in here and be a **** to me.

All the hostility isn't necessary here people. Welcome back to the Waaagh Firefly.

Thanks. Glad to be here, in spite of the reception from a few angry emo kids. Although as a fan of dwarves, I'm here to stop the Waaagh.

[Natherul]

alright, lets keep this civil or moderation will need to happen. Its a game that we all enjoy, lets behave like it