What is actually happening in T4?

[Karast]

Add to that that there are much higher priorities than that and you see the frustration with the "alpha's not an excuse!" brigade. It damn well is. Now I've been forced to issue a response, which I shouldn't have had to do in the first place and which will change absolutely nothing as the next thread will come around very soon with someone who has a better idea of what we should be doing than we do, or doesn't feel that the current state of the project is any justification for the existence of whatever issue is rustling them, and would like it fixed immediately, thank you very much.

Don't sweat them! Keep up the good work! You are all doing a fantastic job!

[Dresden]

The community still needs to give their input on how they feel things are working though. Its an alpha sure, but without feedback it'd be a handful of people trying to test and balance everything on their own.

Why bother? why take the time? arguements are too risky anyway.

If it doesn't belong on the github bugtracker then you're just espousing personal opinion.

Just give up and wait, it's easier and THAT is the REAL solution.

It's painful to accept but it's better to just help the devs by not wasting their time.

[Tesq]

War is a group play if you do not have the propper set up you gona fail horrobly and there are for each class different and optimal set up for sc,rvr,pve,solo gank; that organized groups swap. It'a true that some classes have an small edge in something but the difference in gear is pretty low in this stage of the game.
My dok is still devastator because the ammount x chance to drop currency is horryble and is durable more or less like any annihilator dok.( not even the t4 influence chalice)
Difference are made by team mates that help you stay alive and build that buff all party
If for exemple as destru you do not have 2x tanks that boost morales in at least 3 party you gona feel it.
You need to organize even as pug, you can't simply go in rvr and hit stuff with all the aoe and zerg one side could bring.
I actually made a lot pug wb in live and some here the first times: ppl do not stick to you, do not swap their spec as you ask them and having play every times in enviroment with low help they have fear to do even the most basic action just like guard or push when you tell em ( and not when the enemy is falling back).
Then add the lack of base skill due to ppl being new to the game.
And the rush to exit from lower tiers which subsequentaly mean bad rr.

You have a pug wb.....


on destru in t2-t3 we where few but at least some that raised and lead and help other ppl to understand how play, how a wb should work because in live we suffer being less organized than orders. Guess what im finished in a guild with one of those ppl and now we have a great ally too and we do regulary wb and we have fun and i still have to see someone quite rage cos we wiped once.

That's why i always suffer premades with a low attitude to share their build:

-they either dont care for their realm or they dont want strong opposition when they x realm
-they don't want strong build to be nerf and we had a good exemple of bretin defense on the whichbrew threads.

Idk if there was or there is someone that is trying to do or done what some on our side done in past on orderside, but regardless to this:

If you suffer for being unorganized try to ask organized group what they do and why they do that and why that set up and not another one. You may be suprise how many ppl can give you a hand and share what they think.
Also even if you wanna stay in your small guild NOTHING stop you to join an alliance or creare one and improve all togheter.

All this payed well because destru in eu is usually the one which win the dominance seal (tought i have just 1 cos last zone tend to lock at absurd time). And i remember the times when we where zerged by order in t3.

Rvr problem are due the new system be in development, until keep lock and flag flame you should be happy.
Even more considering that the new rvr system will likely have a resource system of some kind to help spread the zerg.

[Dresden]

All i care about now when it comes to complaining is finding exploits to put on github, i'm fairly sure that if i grind it hard enough i'll finally get that damn Manticore for Kagaz.

It's a solid way to contribute to the welfare/future of this game and i appear to have a knack for it.

Already reported one but no luck yet, i like it, it's like the randomness of a lootbag roll.

If i can get that damn Manticore i'll probably even be happy enough to clear my chat ignore list.

[Rebuke]

Curious to see how this intended GW2 style of RvR is going to work out. Concidering pugs are already coping with the current simplicity which is RoR RvR...

[Dresden]

Curious to see how this intended GW2 style of RvR is going to work out. Concidering pugs are already coping with the current simplicity which is RoR RvR...

In space... err... i mean in alpha... nobody can hear you scr... err... i mean nobody remembers change is constant...

[jbrutal]

It went from having capping keeps sometimes having big fights in t4 NA

now its waiting around till fatal attacks so we can soak up defending points cause Keep lord 3000 cleaves rage knockback is not intended for 1 warband but for the zergs Eu deals with .


NA PLAYERS MATTER !

[Collateral]

Are there really so few NA players? I thought WAR was relatively popular in NA during live. We have plenty of Americans in our alliance, and some of them play with us during EU prime time. If there was a way for you guys to spread the word somehow...

[Tesq]

Must be the ping, always have to play with 2 sec lag can be really heavy sometimes.

[Jebbernaut]

To be fair, I hardly notice the 2 second lag. NA primetime is just dead outside of one and maybe half order warbands working together. I've debated fishing 4chan for more NA players, but last night was the first successful keep take we had in about a week as Order. The new changes help, but I think it is still partially due to most order pugs attempting the Lord the same way they have been since T2.

Obviously the new strategy should be one group tanking the Lord and the rest of the warband(s) clearing defenders. So, it's partially the calibur of Order players vs. Destroy EU primetime. I may hate Phalanx and Porn Factory as a rival, but organization certainly shines more so on Destro.