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Bozzax
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Re: Changelog 18/11/16 (2)

Post#41 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:03 pm

Going by the amount of changes and the magnitude of the changes this feels far from 'general availability' normally you do stuff like this on a smaller group.
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

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Re: Changelog 18/11/16 (2)

Post#42 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:10 pm

4 dok and 4 tanks on destro vs 2 WP and 2 melee dps on order in front line. This make game total unplayable and looks like this never end!

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Azarael
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Re: Changelog 18/11/16 (2)

Post#43 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:15 pm

zumos2 wrote:
Bozzax wrote:Az seriously with all respect I think you should reconsider this .ab ex maybe pull it back and fine tune it.

maybe you should review who is playertesting these changes as well. How this could go live is a mystery to me.

The "eggs you are breaking" are my friends that stopped playing. I didn't help that all feedback that wasn't wanted was ignored or responded with stuff like read patchnotes/char selection description.
And how do you expect them to fine tune it without extensive testing? Honestly stupid comment this is. When you play on an alpha server you should be open to test new stuff. You can not agree with changes but you should then explain in a rational manner why not. And when discussing changes it kinda helps when you play with then before you give feedback ...
This is exactly what I would have said to you as well, Bozzax. Do you think we can theorycraft our way to victory or something? I'm sorry, but if people are going to RQ over rapid fixing and adjustment, then let them. I would understand if I'd made one changeset and then disappeared for weeks, but that isn't the case, is it?

Such gall you have. Patches once a day or multiple times a day to respond quickly to issues, but the only thing that will satisfy some is a perfect first iteration from out of the blue or doing nothing at all.

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Re: Changelog 18/11/16 (2)

Post#44 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:23 pm

This is what happens when a game gets no balance patches for 4 years people just cant adapt.
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Re: Changelog 18/11/16 (2)

Post#45 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:38 pm

Great! Been waiting for this one.
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Re: Changelog 18/11/16 (2)

Post#46 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:55 pm

Spoiler:
Remember remember 17-18/11/2016. Is the day Az and the team kill Dok and Wp healers first (original healers,people who play and support others all their life) and after start razor-toothed the dps Dok and Wp. These two days i speak with lot of people in both sides and many people are ready to stop War, the game of their lifes (we play this game for almost 8 years,some people marriage last lesser than that period), because the crew discover in 2017 the dps Dok/Wp and the tank specs of healing Wp and Doks and everything in this "balanced" game broken because of them. U said that u ressurect this game because u like it and u miss it and slowly u try to change it all.So u dont miss the old game.U miss to be in charge to do what ever u want and destroy everything in your path.U dont care about the people who play, u dont respect them, u just apply your ego to the others because u can.No one disagree that this is your project and u can do what ever u ike with it but try to dont play with people lifes.Because the wheel will turn.Behind all of this characters exist people s.People s who have real life, real problems and have this game to fool their selfs that they are happy in a fantasy game world.How u can decide after so many years to stop the carrer of heal Dok/Wp. Not to nurf. To terminate it. Not all of the people like to run in front and hit targets.They like to be front lines healers and to provide for the others,they like to cleanse. to heal and they are happy when they manage to keep their party alive. They spend years to lvl and get equipment to do that and now u decide that -its ok they just throw their years in a trashcan.Because some people are get upset and some people crying.Its not the balance who u try to fix. There is no balance in War. All players are not the same. A mellee Dok/wp is nothing for the proper group or player who know the game and know how to kill. The dmg of them is healable, they dont hit like mara,we or choppa and their armour is nothing, espesially without TB. If they dont hit they die. The game had a balance and with small tiny little changes maybe u can make it better but that u do here is not a change.Its end carrer. If this server was under payment many people will not renew their subscribes for sure.Now because of free and some people with the economical crisis be upon us they will stay and play something else,just to remember the good old game and the atmosphere.THe fact is one. Remember remember 17-18/11/2016. Is the day Az and the team kill Dok and Wp healers first (original healers,people who play and support others all their life) and after start razor-toothed the dps Dok and Wp.

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Re: Changelog 18/11/16 (2)

Post#47 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:55 pm

what is mode lockout?
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Azarael
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Re: Changelog 18/11/16 (2)

Post#48 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:59 pm

Making switching between MDPS and melee healing modes unviable.

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Re: Changelog 18/11/16 (2)

Post#49 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:40 pm

darkangel6f6 wrote:
Spoiler:
Remember remember 17-18/11/2016. Is the day Az and the team kill Dok and Wp healers first (original healers,people who play and support others all their life) and after start razor-toothed the dps Dok and Wp. These two days i speak with lot of people in both sides and many people are ready to stop War, the game of their lifes (we play this game for almost 8 years,some people marriage last lesser than that period), because the crew discover in 2017 the dps Dok/Wp and the tank specs of healing Wp and Doks and everything in this "balanced" game broken because of them. U said that u ressurect this game because u like it and u miss it and slowly u try to change it all.So u dont miss the old game.U miss to be in charge to do what ever u want and destroy everything in your path.U dont care about the people who play, u dont respect them, u just apply your ego to the others because u can.No one disagree that this is your project and u can do what ever u ike with it but try to dont play with people lifes.Because the wheel will turn.Behind all of this characters exist people s.People s who have real life, real problems and have this game to fool their selfs that they are happy in a fantasy game world.How u can decide after so many years to stop the carrer of heal Dok/Wp. Not to nurf. To terminate it. Not all of the people like to run in front and hit targets.They like to be front lines healers and to provide for the others,they like to cleanse. to heal and they are happy when they manage to keep their party alive. They spend years to lvl and get equipment to do that and now u decide that -its ok they just throw their years in a trashcan.Because some people are get upset and some people crying.Its not the balance who u try to fix. There is no balance in War. All players are not the same. A mellee Dok/wp is nothing for the proper group or player who know the game and know how to kill. The dmg of them is healable, they dont hit like mara,we or choppa and their armour is nothing, espesially without TB. If they dont hit they die. The game had a balance and with small tiny little changes maybe u can make it better but that u do here is not a change.Its end carrer. If this server was under payment many people will not renew their subscribes for sure.Now because of free and some people with the economical crisis be upon us they will stay and play something else,just to remember the good old game and the atmosphere.THe fact is one. Remember remember 17-18/11/2016. Is the day Az and the team kill Dok and Wp healers first (original healers,people who play and support others all their life) and after start razor-toothed the dps Dok and Wp.

Take some time off from the forums. - Torque
Plenty of people played none op classes for 5 years. They coped. You might actually have fun on a class thats harder to play.
I started on a dok. My first experience of war was coming of that boat at the start of dark elf. When I found the class was just a healbot I switched to AM and mained that the whole way. Get off the 'member berries. Change is good.
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Re: Changelog 18/11/16 (2)

Post#50 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:44 pm

Telen wrote: Plenty of people played none op classes for 5 years. They coped. You might actually have fun on a class thats harder to play.
I started on a dok. My first experience of war was coming of that boat at the start of dark elf. When I found the class was just a healbot I switched to AM and mained that the whole way. Get off the 'member berries. Change is good.
And AM is not an healbot? :P
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