Decrease in Population?

[spikespiegel84]

A good crack with friends, loads of kills, or deaths, an epic battle for a keep decided in seconds where you play the keyboard like fukkin Beethoven. This is what we want. To hell zones lock, the meta, the perfect setup, the melee train, the procs. There are simply players who will have fun with this and many others who will find themselves satisfied with Overwatch and DOTA. Solution? No clue. Without Nazgul I wouldn't even play computer. We are not good, we are not pro, we are nothing. We are friends who love to share a couple of hours together in a busy, normal, dark mid life day. And this is not given by any other place. You nerf chosen? We roll a Black Ork. You nerf Black ork? We will play a BG. Until we will play all tanks sorcs, and we will have the crack we have every day, we'll keep on playing. The problem is not the game, is why you play it. If you quit for a change/nerf/tune you better stop, play LoL, and be the moron you were meant to be since you were born. And life is made of moments, so if this game dies, so be it. But no one will take away this memories, and they better be good than bent to the loser's tears. Long live RoR, and thanks guys for letting me play it longer than those bloody suits in EA foresaw.

[Aurandilaz]

when 200-300 people on both sides run with 3-5 organized wbs stomping pugs... and then start playing defensively in order to lure enemies into attacking... the average gamer might just throw in the towel and decide they can do something else then play Verdunhammer where you might get a victory or most likely a losing tick somewhere after 6-12 hours of brutal zerging.
I have no idea how T4 feels for new players, but it can on the occasion be extremely tiresome to even older WAR players.

The reasons for new players to start playing RoR are few and rare, whereas the reasons why people leave having experienced T4 meatgrinder are numerous.

[Jaycub]

Had some good fights against shinto's warband and some destro groups last night, granted we had to switch to order to fight them and that might not be possible in the future. NA is almost always kepty alive by one side getting a warband up and then maybe a guild 6-12man fighting them.

Also holy **** plz give horned squigs pathing whenever possible, the amount of SH abusing the punt off walls is staggering. When you only got a few defending this pretty much queers the whole deal

[charlysixb]

A good crack with friends, loads of kills, or deaths, an epic battle for a keep decided in seconds where you play the keyboard like fukkin Beethoven. This is what we want. To hell zones lock, the meta, the perfect setup, the melee train, the procs. There are simply players who will have fun with this and many others who will find themselves satisfied with Overwatch and DOTA. Solution? No clue. Without Nazgul I wouldn't even play computer. We are not good, we are not pro, we are nothing. We are friends who love to share a couple of hours together in a busy, normal, dark mid life day. And this is not given by any other place. You nerf chosen? We roll a Black Ork. You nerf Black ork? We will play a BG. Until we will play all tanks sorcs, and we will have the crack we have every day, we'll keep on playing. The problem is not the game, is why you play it. If you quit for a change/nerf/tune you better stop, play LoL, and be the moron you were meant to be since you were born. And life is made of moments, so if this game dies, so be it. But no one will take away this memories, and they better be good than bent to the loser's tears. Long live RoR, and thanks guys for letting me play it longer than those bloody suits in EA foresaw.

^^^
Loved this .

[Daknallbomb]

A good crack with friends, loads of kills, or deaths, an epic battle for a keep decided in seconds where you play the keyboard like fukkin Beethoven. This is what we want. To hell zones lock, the meta, the perfect setup, the melee train, the procs. There are simply players who will have fun with this and many others who will find themselves satisfied with Overwatch and DOTA. Solution? No clue. Without Nazgul I wouldn't even play computer. We are not good, we are not pro, we are nothing. We are friends who love to share a couple of hours together in a busy, normal, dark mid life day. And this is not given by any other place. You nerf chosen? We roll a Black Ork. You nerf Black ork? We will play a BG. Until we will play all tanks sorcs, and we will have the crack we have every day, we'll keep on playing. The problem is not the game, is why you play it. If you quit for a change/nerf/tune you better stop, play LoL, and be the moron you were meant to be since you were born. And life is made of moments, so if this game dies, so be it. But no one will take away this memories, and they better be good than bent to the loser's tears. Long live RoR, and thanks guys for letting me play it longer than those bloody suits in EA foresaw.

Hail nazgul!!! U made the most of my days cool in ror since iam allowed to leech

[ToXoS]

Had some good fights against shinto's warband and some destro groups last night, granted we had to switch to order to fight them and that might not be possible in the future. NA is almost always kepty alive by one side getting a warband up and then maybe a guild 6-12man fighting them.

Also holy **** plz give horned squigs pathing whenever possible, the amount of SH abusing the punt off walls is staggering. When you only got a few defending this pretty much queers the whole deal

SH will stop using this strategy the day WL will stop Fetching people off the walls by sending their lions.

[saupreusse]

Pathing is a bitch.

[Daknallbomb]

y the thingy with the pets suxx hard ... wl and sh pets running to closed doors on walls killing player siege weapons rams -.- pull ppl from walls ... it looks pathing is rly hard to fix .. or it will solved long time ago

[HeroesFall]

The path an RvR game or open world pvp game takes is entirely dependent on the players.

Was it any better in guild wars, dark age of camelot, etc?

is entirely dependent on the players.

I assume this means you disagree. Then please offer a plausible reason or method for how to control how a large group of players play.

The devs could make every change requested in this and any thread and people would still find something to complain about, still form into a manner which gives them an easier, even unfair advantage, and claim it's the devs fault.

Games succeed and fail based on the community and players, not the game itself. There are plenty of good games out there that died on the vine because players either ruined it or never played it.

[Arteker616]

Had some good fights against shinto's warband and some destro groups last night, granted we had to switch to order to fight them and that might not be possible in the future. NA is almost always kepty alive by one side getting a warband up and then maybe a guild 6-12man fighting them.

Also holy **** plz give horned squigs pathing whenever possible, the amount of SH abusing the punt off walls is staggering. When you only got a few defending this pretty much queers the whole deal

maybe when wls stop fetching people of walls maybe?