[WE] T4 epic weapon help

[Resteloin]

Hi guys.

I am currently leveling a witch elf and started the T4 epic weapon quests. I was wondering what were your thoughts on the T4 epic quest weapons for the WE. I am still undecided...

Dark Elf Weapons
Nightfall
+34 str
+12 init
+14 WS
5% on hit to inflict 450 dmg over 9 sec
Spite
+18 tough
+15 wounds
+27 WS
5% on being hit to snare for -46% and inflict 150 spirit over 9 sec

Greenskin Weapons
Merciless
+19 tough
+19 init
+25 WS
10% on hit to reduce armor by 800 for 6 sec
Seeping Blade
+27 str
+18 tough
+15 WS
5% on hit to inflict 450 elem over 9 sec

Chaos Weapons
Brutality
+30 str
+14 wounds
+20 WS
5% on hit to inflict 450 corp over 9 sec
Frenzy
+20 str
+14 tough
+30 WS
5% on hit to inflict 450 spirit over 9 sec

[Daknallbomb]

hmm chaos frenzy and greenskin merciless Looks good for me together how is the attack Speed from all diffrent or all same ?

[Jaycub]

armor debuff is incredibly strong, it's certainly BiS unless you have a very good BO/BG/Mara in your assist train.

[blaqwar]

Attack speed matters in the sense that you want a fast weapon in the mainhand and a slow one in the offhand. Fast mainhand for consistent procs (both kisses and offhand swing since it acts like a proc in WAR) and slow offhand so that it hits hard whenever it does proc.

Your wording on Spite makes it sound like it has a chance to snare characters who hit you, while in-game the wording is the same as all the others:
"On Hit: 5% chance to anguish the target, reducing movement speed by 46% and dealing 150 spirit damage over 9 seconds."

This means that it's actually useful as opposed to your version.

I think that Merciless is hands-down the best one of them all. The issue is that it's slow and mainhand only. A minor issue with all the others is that they have a chance to proc a DoT and that can ruin your Agile Escape getaway/reset. So meh, none of them look amazing but I guess I'd still go for Merciless MH and Nightfall in the OH. Will probably just come down to looks and trying to farm the Gutslime/Scen weapons asap anyway. xD

[Resteloin]

Your wording on Spite makes it sound like it has a chance to snare characters who hit you, while in-game the wording is the same as all the others:
"On Hit: 5% chance to anguish the target, reducing movement speed by 46% and dealing 150 spirit damage over 9 seconds."

This means that it's actually useful as opposed to your version.

I might have read too fast for Spite proc... oups...

Thanks for the tips guys, really appreciated.

[Miszczu5647]

Like Torque said - Merciless and Spite are only main hand. And are slow (2.4 I believe). And you need fast weapon on main hand for fast AA (WE don't have tactic to speed it up).

Fastest are Nightfall and Frenzy. Faster weapon means more AA, more kisses, more WB, more Frozen Touch, more covenant proc and so on ...

[Aurandilaz]

I'd say the Armour debuff is just too good not to be used, even if it must go mainhand and gives slightly slower AA dmg speed.
With Pierce Armour buffing your WS and and a Kiss that steals initiative, even if your AW doesn't always strike from right position, it still gonna hurt like that well if the enemy is also armour debuffed.
Those minor elemental dmg dots are quite meh.

1st best: armour debuff
2nd best: snare proc

Then simply go for some Scenario weapons that give melee crit as soon as possible.

[Miszczu5647]

I'd say the Armour debuff is just too good not to be used, even if it must go mainhand and gives slightly slower AA dmg speed.
With Pierce Armour buffing your WS and and a Kiss that steals initiative, even if your AW doesn't always strike from right position, it still gonna hurt like that well if the enemy is also armour debuffed.
Those minor elemental dmg dots are quite meh.

Sure it's a option to try. Armor debuff is always good. But when 1vs1 WE have AW and Feinted Positioning (with armor ignore elixir sometimes). When grouped this debuff is covered by someone else.

I tried Merciless+Brutality and Nightfall+Brutality. Had better results with fast AA.

[Krima]

I'd say the Armour debuff is just too good not to be used, even if it must go mainhand and gives slightly slower AA dmg speed.
With Pierce Armour buffing your WS and and a Kiss that steals initiative, even if your AW doesn't always strike from right position, it still gonna hurt like that well if the enemy is also armour debuffed.
Those minor elemental dmg dots are quite meh.

Sure it's a option to try. Armor debuff is always good. But when 1vs1 WE have AW and Feinted Positioning (with armor ignore elixir sometimes). When grouped this debuff is covered by someone else.

I tried Merciless+Brutality and Nightfall+Brutality. Had better results with fast AA.

+1
get the faster AA, good WE's dont need Armor debuff.. PA + exilir and AW is more than enough
Nightfall + brutality way to go

[Dresden]

Ty, useful.