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katroulitsa
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Re: Low-spec PC performance boost guide

Post#11 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:08 pm

I don't get why there's so much negativity on these forums everytime someone is making a suggestion or opens a thread aiming to assist the community somehow. No need to be rude whenever you get a chance.

@OP: ty for the guide, it will definitely help a lot of ppl !! :P
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blaqwar
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Re: Low-spec PC performance boost guide

Post#12 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:08 am

katroulitsa wrote:I don't get why there's so much negativity on these forums everytime someone is making a suggestion or opens a thread aiming to assist the community somehow. No need to be rude whenever you get a chance.

@OP: ty for the guide, it will definitely help a lot of ppl !! :P
That's the thing, the negativity is only there when a guide is objectively not very good. I.e. something that won't really help people.

In this case advice to simply play the game at a lower resolution is less a "boost guide" and more like a last-resort measure for people trying to play on a computer that's older than 10-15 years (a minority). For most people the game will run fine in low traffic areas and struggle when it comes to engagements with a lot of people. And while lowering your resolution is a working "blanket" fix for pretty much any situation in any game, advice like "turn off overhead text, don't use certain addons, turn down the update frequencies on others" is what people are looking for.

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Tomerant
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Re: Low-spec PC performance boost guide

Post#13 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:29 pm

Looking for... and can't find it.

Write it down, share it.
I'm completely new to game and might not yet know all the tips and tricks on how to improve fps. That was basic and general guide for people to get "first aid"...

Who says I won't update it with any knew stuff I find?
Can you stop acting like that and improve this what I wrote?
Or will you just continue to do what you most of people know the best - hate.

that's easiest way to get some "love" lately. Whoever writes something, just put a shame or hate on him, you are immediately better then him.

I did my share.
Wrote down couple of small things to save up some RAM. Suggested some other stuff which you are not forced to do but still provide fps boost.

You also mention one rather silly term here... "minority".
Here we have less then 1000 players online all the time since I joined the server and you speak about minority. Every single man counts. You, my dear friend, are minority. I am minority. We are all minority that refuses to cater to new-age clusterfks and cash grab mmos. Every single player that comes here matters. His PC doesn't matter. Be it 10-15 years old or
some new beast gaming machine, player behind it matters.

Why does this guide pains you so much? Can it hurt you? Have I wrote anything that's not true? Have I provided non-valid screenshots?
I dont understand you at all.

If you wrote what I wrote and I knew all the tips you know, my response to you would be:

"Hey friend! Thanks for taking your time to write this all down. I'm sure someone will find it usefull as obvious as it might seem. I could provide you some other ingame tips which affect fps gains even better then the things you listed. PM me if interested or should I just write them down here so you can edit and update your post?."

This is how healthy and helpful community works out. Consider it next time before you bash someone's effort.
I'm serious about those tips tho... if you know anything that might help guys with lower fps, PM me and I'll be more then glad to update the post.

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Re: Low-spec PC performance boost guide

Post#14 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:27 pm

Tomerant, I'm glad you posted your guide. If even a handful of people find it helpful then it was worth it. If others don't think it's helpful then oh well. Don't let it bother you.

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blaqwar
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Re: Low-spec PC performance boost guide

Post#15 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:17 pm

I'm sorry I upset people.
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Tomerant wrote:Write it down, share it.
I'm completely new to game and might not yet know all the tips and tricks on how to improve fps. That was basic and general guide for people to get "first aid"...
The general rule of thumb is if you don't know what you're doing (cause you're new, we've all been there, nothing to be ashamed of) you're not really in a position to be showing others how it's done. That's how life works in general.
Tomerant wrote:Who says I won't update it with any knew stuff I find?
Can you stop acting like that and improve this what I wrote?
Or will you just continue to do what you most of people know the best - hate.
I already wrote down a few things you can try, maybe you should try reading my posts instead of focusing solely on my criticism. I'd argue you're the one who's focusing on the negative here, I'm just trying to be objective.
Tomerant wrote:that's easiest way to get some "love" lately. Whoever writes something, just put a shame or hate on him, you are immediately better then him.
I really don't agree with your assesment because in my mind the RoR community, while harsh when it comes to gameplay, are very helpful when it comes to general help and tend to not jump on the "hate bandwagon" (unless it's gameplay and balance related, but that's not the subject here). In that sense I like to think this is a corner of the internet where the negative trends of the internet in general don't apply (in no small part thanks to the efforts of the RoR team). And if you can honestly say that I act in the way you described above if you look through my post history then I'm doing something wrong because that's certainly not my intent.
Tomerant wrote:I did my share.
Wrote down couple of small things to save up some RAM. Suggested some other stuff which you are not forced to do but still provide fps boost.
And that's what you did, your contribution isn't big and the general criticism is that you haven't really done any research past implementing the very general changes that have worked for you in Rift (and would probably work for any Windows game or application). If you had simply made a post with the question of "What can I do to improve the performance of this game?" you would probably have been able to compile a better guide from the responses of the community. They're a helpful bunch.
Tomerant wrote:You also mention one rather silly term here... "minority".
Here we have less then 1000 players online all the time since I joined the server and you speak about minority. Every single man counts. You, my dear friend, are minority. I am minority. We are all minority that refuses to cater to new-age clusterfks and cash grab mmos. Every single player that comes here matters. His PC doesn't matter. Be it 10-15 years old or
some new beast gaming machine, player behind it matters.
When you point out that everyone is a minority I understand that in the sense that every person is a person (correct me if I'm wrong here). In which case I agree, every person is a person. That is, a person by and unto itself. Since a person by themselves can't a plurality they therefore can never be a majority when considered in the context of the minority/majority divison (since a majority is always a plurality). It follows that in this context a person is a minority. Glad we established that.

But seriously, when you make a guide you take for granted certain unifying factors of the playerbase that the guide is written for. You assume that the crowd you wrote the guide for is struggling with FPS, that they're using old computers, that they are not very apt with technology, etc. And as such a guide will never be able to help every single person unless you personalise it to the point when it becomes personal advice. You seem to be eager to do just that in order to help every single person by specialising your guide as much as you can. The majority of us (here I go using silly words again) however, will do our best to help people when they make a post asking for specialised advice. Much less time and energy consuming and more efficient.

Tomerant wrote:Why does this guide pains you so much? Can it hurt you? Have I wrote anything that's not true? Have I provided non-valid screenshots?
I dont understand you at all.
It does not pain me at all and I do not see it as a threat to my existence. The criticism I made, as harsh as it may be, is still well-meant and the sole fact that I pointed you in the direction you can take the guide shows that I'm trying to help (read my previous comments).
Tomerant wrote:If you wrote what I wrote and I knew all the tips you know, my response to you would be:

"Hey friend! Thanks for taking your time to write this all down. I'm sure someone will find it usefull as obvious as it might seem. I could provide you some other ingame tips which affect fps gains even better then the things you listed. PM me if interested or should I just write them down here so you can edit and update your post?."

This is how healthy and helpful community works out. Consider it next time before you bash someone's effort.
I'm serious about those tips tho... if you know anything that might help guys with lower fps, PM me and I'll be more then glad to update the post.
As pointed out, I'm not really bashing your effort, it's called objective criticism. And if you're not willing to have your work stand up to objective criticism I will understand that. I'll make sure to never criticise any of your posts in the future.

It's also obvious that you have not read my posts since I did include tips on how to improve FPS in them. Sure they're not fully fleshed out and expanded upon for you to simply copy/paste into your guide but I'd expect you to be doing the heavy-lifting here since it's your guide.

PS: There's things like these:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19413
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18615
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18372
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6043 (for Linux)
https://zewar.wordpress.com/2011/01/20/ ... erformance

I'm hesistant with linking the last one because:
1. The links in it are outdated
2. I've posted it a few times already
3. I'm biased and also I don't want to piss of the RoR team by driving traffic off the website (though it's a non-profit blog).

All in all I'll just butt out of your business and wish you godspeed!

PS: One last comment about something from your guide, calling people douche's cause they prefer playing at a native monitor resolution seems extreme, especially because it has nothing to do with trends or being "cool" and everything to do with actually using the hardware you bought and wanting to be able to see the game clearly. I'd argue that if anything playing windowed at a smaller resolution is the new cool since that's how some CS/LoL/DotA pro players do it (not for reasons of higher FPS afaik).
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Re: Low-spec PC performance boost guide

Post#16 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:54 pm

Just keep at it until it's perfect or until no one complains anymore.

That's what i do, and it works.
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Tomerant
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Re: Low-spec PC performance boost guide

Post#17 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:50 pm

... I get a headache from people like this guy. Stubborn, all-knowing, gotta-be-the-best...
Is there any similar topic where he didn't post his own "guide which contains basic general info which any advanced gamer could find out in 2 months of gaming in WAR".

Dude, do me a favor and move out of my way, now and in future. Please. We started of on a wrong foot, with your fault, and I have very little tolerance for people that come at me in such way literally first time they make an actual contact with me.

While you raise some VALID points in your "ze blog", your stuff covers INGAME things only.
If you really, reeaaaalllyyy want to feel the difference you gotta start before you launch the game.

I ran Rift, game that's 2 times more crap optimized and hardware demanding, on dual core 2.2, 2gb RAM, 512mb GPU on 30fps for long time with stuff I wrote here.
I upgraded GPU to 1gb and RAM to 3gb back then and gained 10 more fps while doing same stuff.

As obvious as this is, it works. It does. So please... please... drop the bat already cuz I have no more strength to argue over **** you write.
This is my last reply here to you regardless of what you write next. Thanks for ruining post which is meant to serve greater purpose then two-men rant.
/clap you are fkn genius.

EDIT: updated the post with info you provided. Thanks, that overhead text is strange stuff but really works.

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