Help me get up to snuff

[Rebuke]

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OP, take this piece of advise: dont actually play on RoR but log in once in a while on this forum so you can see the same 6-7 persons whining in the widest range of topics imaginable; way better entertainment.

This project is done, it will not gain any new players, none of the alterations that the devs have made in the last 18 months (e.g: rvr system, multiple armor sets, purple bag gear, aoe cap) actually have made the game more enjoyable and there simply is not enough interest for this game to provide any level of enjoyable longevity.

User was warned for this post. Further attempts to derail will be rewarded with a forum ban.

[Dresden]

BLORC FOR DA FUNZ!!!

[TheSockPuppet]

Did somebody say shitposting?

WE=WH:They are both equally useless.

IB >>> BG: well the BG is useless (except for his punt, obviously) and only smelly people play them, so i suppose IB is better in comparison

SH >>>>> SW: Because punting people through the walls using the pet is the most op thing in the entire world, as opposed to pulling them through the walls using the pet, which is considered balanced and people never whine about it at all, even when you can pull them out of rez range using that method.

Engi >>>>>>>> Magus: Unfortunately, you have to play scenarios to get certain pieces of gear in this game, the gear costs a lot, so you have to play A LOT of scenarios AND win them or at least do very well at them to get it. Unfortunately, most of scenarios operate on a good ol' fashioned battlefield objective system, which means that a class with a passive aoe heal that consistently does at least half the healing of an actual healer during a match, abilities that stack it's armour and disrupt to levels that are equal to that of a tank and packing the some of the best close-ranged AoE damage in the game can become a real bitch to play against, now take that class and make it about 1/8 of the makeup on a faction and you have cancer in your hands. Now make said class exclusive to only one faction and you have just cornered the salt market.

Sorc >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BW: Up until recently, BW was quite possibly the most OP class in the game, it could annihilate entire armies just by staring them at them, it could disignegrate any melee class that was foolish enough to get near him and those who evaded it's wrath would die a slow and painful death as order-bias induced tumours started to cover their internal organs. Now a **** midget is considered better than them (if only because the midget can pull the stunt (GEDDIT? STUNT!?! HAR-HAR-HARDY-HAR) i mentioned above. And to make things worst for the once reigning most OP class ever made, i have very recently learned that the only reason destro dominates the game is because of the sorc m4, which the BW lacks, yap, that's it, the sorc M4 is the sole reason destro has managed to consistently dominate order those past 2 months, it's true. Yap.

WL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Marauder: On one hand (GEDDIT? I MADE A PUN! HAR-HAR-HARDY-HAR) the marauder sports pretty much every single survivabily reducing debuff in the game on his ST spec, thus he is first going to butter the ass of his target before proceeding to deliver a brutal, raw, battering that is most likely going to result in a fatality if the marauder isn't restrained or his target given proper medical attention and protection which is often not enought for the unfortunate victim. On the other hand, the marauder lacks the mobility, CCs and burst of the WL, who can serve as a better version of the WH, suddenly striking the backlines using their excellent moblity and CCing their target before p-TZEENTCHUS **** CHRIST IT'S A LION GET IN THE C-

ARRRRRRRRRRRGGHHHHHHHHH! MY PANCREAS! NOT MY PANCREAS! AAAAAHHH! AAAAAAHHHHHH!

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[Aurandilaz]

DoK (former favorite)- Seems about the same, but a little softer than before. Having a hard time with WH and WL who seem a little OP right now. Will that even out or does DoK fall short as melee and healer?

Healer DoK is good as ever, if only slightly less OP than what it used to be. Groupcleanse and GroupHoT and fast GroupHeal make it still the best destro healer in right hands. (never underestimate the power of Gcleanse)

WE - This class doesn't feel strong at all anymore. Do they get stronger with time or should I drop mine before wasting time?

WE/WH are the bottom tier mdps atm, they supposed to be the best high risk high reward dps, but for now Mara and WL have better burst and less risk and far greater mobility (mara pull, WL pull+pounce), whereas even Choppa/Slayer provide better sustained dmg and greater group utility. People used to think a WH/WE sneaking around would be the worst thing, but you are far more likely to be roflstomped by those than by the bitches/bitchhunters sneaking around in their light armour.
Drop your WE now if you want to be a serious dps in T4, but if you love the class, keep going. It can shine occasionally, though Mara would probably shine even brighter.

Marauder - Seems pretty godly right now.

Godmode atm. If you need a debuff, a Mara will provide it. Heck, I've seen maras tank lair bosses not to mention they have decent self heal.

SH - no noticeable change from live, excellent kiter

RunAway pisses off Order as usual and the pet can be very annoying. Good choice for rdps.

Sorc - Still inferior to BW

Sorc, from what I've read has better "dmg" than BW, though BW has better utility thanks to ranged knockdown and healdebuff.

Shaman - Seems about the same

Shamans are actually now far stronger than on live, the new career mechanic makes them amazing, though to master it you will requires more effort than facerolling your keyboard on a DoK. RunAway keeps pissing off Order, but sadly Shaman still can't cleanse the BW dots and if you get proper CC on this light armoured cutie, it's gonna drop down like a fried mushroom.

BG - still pointless at higher levels?

Working as designed, the "challenging" tank. You bring far less utility to your party compared to Chosen or Blorc and you need to master 15-20 abilities and your fingers will hurt from trying to reach them all. If you want to be useful, don't roll one. If you want challenging class to play, try it. The 2h BG can do pretty good damage and they look awesome.

BO - STRONK! But not my style.

Solid choice for any party, whether they 2h or SnB. 2h is still sadly not a choppa though many good Blorcs come close to being Choppas.

Chosen - No change over live

You can have 3 auras active, hit the stagger occasionally and spam Ravage, easy as ever. Solid punt, though BG has longer (requires +90 hate, Chosen doesn't care about restrictions to being awesome) Solid choice for any party.

Also noticing some Order classes seem.....off. WL's are just stupidly OP compared to before. WH's are just WOW good and were never stronger than WE's. BW's are not quite as strong as before, but close. Maybe it's just me, but Order seems to have the advantage overall. I hope I'm judging too early and the realms are balanced.

Anyway, glad to be back. See you on the battlefield. WAAAGGGHHH!!!!

WL is working as designed, there is nothing weird about 3 sec KD arriving with such burst that you never rise up from the ground. Maras can pull off somewhat similar feats. (though WL has both pounce and pull, mara only pull which can be disrupted. however killing the WL pet results in pull not working). Someone has to fill the shoes of the "high risk, high reward" class, and since WE/WH are Useless-tier, might as well have WL/Mara fill the spot. WE and WH are perfectly balanced in being equally useless.

The realm are somewhat balanced, though Order retains maybe "3-5"% better group utility compared to Destro (they have slightly greater variety of dynamics aimed at group utility maximzation, though the difference is honestly minimal these days)
Destro has many good classes, so does Order. IB might be slightly less useless than BG, but WE is slightly less awful compared to WH. BW has better utility, Sorc meanwhile is slightly more lethal. Engi somewhat stronger than Magi, but no one has ever care about Magi anyway. AM has better healing potential than Shaman, but Shaman retains better survivability. Careers like Chosen/Kotb, Slayer/Choppa, Runie/Zealot are very close to being equal.
Overall, despite this or that annoying you, the game is in a far more balanced state than what it was on live. Despite all the complaining, things are still better off these days. People just forget the last years of WAR, and how goddamn awful the "balance" was back then.