About Choppas!

[Gladpadda]

Heya, ive been playing here since around 2015 and i must say i've never enjoyed a community as much as i enjoy this, the Staff Is Awesome for doing this in their Spare-time.

Thing is, ive been thinking about making a Choppa as a Main char,

Is there anything i should think about before making one. So far ive seen Choppas which does Solo kills insanely fast and doesnt rely on a pocket healer for example.
But when you search and read the forums everybody says that choppas need healers for even 1v1 kills lol.

Which is it haha (Im a fast learning player btw and if i make a Choppa ill try to perfect it as my BG or SH).

Thank you for reading this post!

GIMME SOME GOOD TACTICS FOR THIS! WAAAAGH

[Daknallbomb]

Well a Choppa is no solo toon. Choppa can work very well in grp play.
Solo you get rekt bye most other Toons

[flatfoot1987]

The first char I started when I came to RoR was a choppa but I rerolled shortly. I used to main a choppa/slayer back on live servers and things felt a bit different back then.

Playing on your own in T4 currently doesn't make much sense. You do really need a guard and dedicated healing — with this available you can be very effective.

Soloing a choppa can be moderately successful if you're hell-bent on it and also good with situational awareness. Wounds tactic and m1 absorb help a lot.

BUT

- You're obviously gonna get kited a lot. Order is rdps-heavy. You'll melt down really fast.

- Rage mechanic. Years ago it seemed to be an interesting concept, now other mdps seem to perform well without it. These days everyone knows that hitting a red choppa/slayer gonna yield new max crit records cause no mitigation.

- Everyone is crazy stacking armor and other mdps classes (xcept for your mirror) have some ways to bypass/debuff armor. From my experience it's a big problem because on this stage of the game stacking WS and keeping other stats in check seems to be a bit complicated unless you got really high rr.

Part of the problem (it's about RoR in general, not just about choppas) that RoR playerbase is a lot more refined compared to general public you played with on live servers. It's unknowingly a lot more hardcore and people here know basic rules of this game pretty well.

You can't really pull off some things that were possible back in 2010 when you played against some random clicking-keyboard turning guys. In other words, you can be a good solo choppa if you're fighting some bads who don't know what to do.

Not really seeing a lot of solo opportunities unless the devs introduce some all out defensive sets with bubble/selfheal procs (which I doubt will ever happen).

[Gladpadda]

Thanks for the intel i will keep all this in mind!

[Tesq]

stats stack on choppa can be solved with mixing sets, the crit you loose can be get from other source such epic quest 2h weapon, or sc weapon etc. My rr40 choppa have str cappeped, armor ingore at 40% and crit when buffed at 14%.Additional rr should give you mroe crit and more wep skill.

[spikespiegel84]

Coolest looking class. Too bad Slayer outperform it overall. Except maybe Chop Fasta!
Still, quick charge in, kill, detaunt and run away using flee.

[Gladpadda]

Yeah! See you all on the Battlefield.


:D:D:D:D:D

[Arteker616]

The first char I started when I came to RoR was a choppa but I rerolled shortly. I used to main a choppa/slayer back on live servers and things felt a bit different back then.

Playing on your own in T4 currently doesn't make much sense. You do really need a guard and dedicated healing — with this available you can be very effective.

Soloing a choppa can be moderately successful if you're hell-bent on it and also good with situational awareness. Wounds tactic and m1 absorb help a lot.

BUT

- You're obviously gonna get kited a lot. Order is rdps-heavy. You'll melt down really fast.

- Rage mechanic. Years ago it seemed to be an interesting concept, now other mdps seem to perform well without it. These days everyone knows that hitting a red choppa/slayer gonna yield new max crit records cause no mitigation.

- Everyone is crazy stacking armor and other mdps classes (xcept for your mirror) have some ways to bypass/debuff armor. From my experience it's a big problem because on this stage of the game stacking WS and keeping other stats in check seems to be a bit complicated unless you got really high rr.

Part of the problem (it's about RoR in general, not just about choppas) that RoR playerbase is a lot more refined compared to general public you played with on live servers. It's unknowingly a lot more hardcore and people here know basic rules of this game pretty well.

You can't really pull off some things that were possible back in 2010 when you played against some random clicking-keyboard turning guys. In other words, you can be a good solo choppa if you're fighting some bads who don't know what to do.

Not really seeing a lot of solo opportunities unless the devs introduce some all out defensive sets with bubble/selfheal procs (which I doubt will ever happen).

Chopa got Castrated when lost his main ability Cannot stop da chop as stacking armour debuff

[TenTonHammer]

The first char I started when I came to RoR was a choppa but I rerolled shortly. I used to main a choppa/slayer back on live servers and things felt a bit different back then.

Playing on your own in T4 currently doesn't make much sense. You do really need a guard and dedicated healing — with this available you can be very effective.

Soloing a choppa can be moderately successful if you're hell-bent on it and also good with situational awareness. Wounds tactic and m1 absorb help a lot.

BUT

- You're obviously gonna get kited a lot. Order is rdps-heavy. You'll melt down really fast.

- Rage mechanic. Years ago it seemed to be an interesting concept, now other mdps seem to perform well without it. These days everyone knows that hitting a red choppa/slayer gonna yield new max crit records cause no mitigation.

- Everyone is crazy stacking armor and other mdps classes (xcept for your mirror) have some ways to bypass/debuff armor. From my experience it's a big problem because on this stage of the game stacking WS and keeping other stats in check seems to be a bit complicated unless you got really high rr.

Part of the problem (it's about RoR in general, not just about choppas) that RoR playerbase is a lot more refined compared to general public you played with on live servers. It's unknowingly a lot more hardcore and people here know basic rules of this game pretty well.

You can't really pull off some things that were possible back in 2010 when you played against some random clicking-keyboard turning guys. In other words, you can be a good solo choppa if you're fighting some bads who don't know what to do.https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwat ... 880#post-1

Not really seeing a lot of solo opportunities unless the devs introduce some all out defensive sets with bubble/selfheal procs (which I doubt will ever happen).

Chopa got Castrated when lost his main ability Cannot stop da chop as stacking armour debuff

Really? Choppa became gimped when he lost the equivalent of cutting claw and got his inc heal debuff instead?


If you want an armor debuff so badly play in a group, choppa can melt targets when he's guarded and healed, more so when that target has been armor rebuffed and the choppa has buffed his WS by himself or by a BO


Yes choppa is a group dependent class, the class needs "help" inorder to reach his full potential but what do you expect WAR/RoR is a group game.


Having said all that it's not like you can't solo in this game, every class in this game can solo though some do it better than others, it's all about picking your battles.

[Arteker616]

The first char I started when I came to RoR was a choppa but I rerolled shortly. I used to main a choppa/slayer back on live servers and things felt a bit different back then.

Playing on your own in T4 currently doesn't make much sense. You do really need a guard and dedicated healing — with this available you can be very effective.

Soloing a choppa can be moderately successful if you're hell-bent on it and also good with situational awareness. Wounds tactic and m1 absorb help a lot.

BUT

- You're obviously gonna get kited a lot. Order is rdps-heavy. You'll melt down really fast.

- Rage mechanic. Years ago it seemed to be an interesting concept, now other mdps seem to perform well without it. These days everyone knows that hitting a red choppa/slayer gonna yield new max crit records cause no mitigation.

- Everyone is crazy stacking armor and other mdps classes (xcept for your mirror) have some ways to bypass/debuff armor. From my experience it's a big problem because on this stage of the game stacking WS and keeping other stats in check seems to be a bit complicated unless you got really high rr.

Part of the problem (it's about RoR in general, not just about choppas) that RoR playerbase is a lot more refined compared to general public you played with on live servers. It's unknowingly a lot more hardcore and people here know basic rules of this game pretty well.

You can't really pull off some things that were possible back in 2010 when you played against some random clicking-keyboard turning guys. In other words, you can be a good solo choppa if you're fighting some bads who don't know what to do.https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwat ... 880#post-1

Not really seeing a lot of solo opportunities unless the devs introduce some all out defensive sets with bubble/selfheal procs (which I doubt will ever happen).

Chopa got Castrated when lost his main ability Cannot stop da chop as stacking armour debuff

Really? Choppa became gimped when he lost the equivalent of cutting claw and got his inc heal debuff instead?


If you want an armor debuff so badly play in a group, choppa can melt targets when he's guarded and healed, more so when that target has been armor rebuffed and the choppa has buffed his WS by himself or by a BO


Yes choppa is a group dependent class, the class needs "help" inorder to reach his full potential but what do you expect WAR/RoR is a group game.


Having said all that it's not like you can't solo in this game, every class in this game can solo though some do it better than others, it's all about picking your battles.

Choppa armour debuff did stack to the point u could negate 3k+armour, cannot stop da chop was akin to spellbreaker , aka no cd. it helped to not need to stack ws and tool choppa to use more thoughnes wich made the choppa less squisher . it lasted for years untill crys got it nerfed along original git to da choppa aoe dmg aka 750 , was that yer finger changed from 120 ini debuff to ws debuff.....

Cannot stop da chop aswellw as the main ability to go with yer going soft it garanted brutal single target dmg ,