Great job

[ergreen]

So what hack tools are you using that we should investigating? Because honestly, whatever you're implying that you didn't get banned for, probably means you didn't deserve to get banned for it in the first place. We're not monsters. The vk RoR site however hosted account/gold sellers for several months that we know of and gathered evidence for. They would happily be doing so now had we not laid out the initial demands.

I used to see gold\acc selling posts, then I saw then gone in a day or so. Most of people see no reason for RMT (only if you are more, than lazy). And old groupmembers usually joke about seller, knowing, that he will be banned - and post deleted.

As to "hacking tools", i can tell openly - I tried to apply AutoHotKey, not for profit, but just for the idea - will it work or not? And mostly my ideas didn't work at all (technical reasons, warhammer reasons, GM reasons). Guess, now it will be banreason. . .

[wargrimnir]

#HandsoffTeinhala

Looks like abuse of authority. I used to ask ambiguous questions to gm's, in this group also. And still wondering - why I am still not banned? I used to discuss ideas, addons, methods - without realisation and usage. Many people warned me, now I understand why. . . When sidelong glance of administration is enough for ban. . . No comments.

So what hack tools are you using that we should investigating? Because honestly, whatever you're implying that you didn't get banned for, probably means you didn't deserve to get banned for it in the first place. We're not monsters. The vk RoR site however hosted account/gold sellers for several months that we know of and gathered evidence for. They would happily be doing so now had we not laid out the initial demands.

Dude, the whole situation could be over by now if you stopped putting salt on the wound, Tein compromised and accepted a moderator except for Alena and you grabbed some salt and said "ALENA". Just choose one of the other 145,999 million russians.

Deflection!

Okay, so we find some other random Russian person and stick them in there. I don't really care about that. My issue is the ALENA! issue being something to hide behind. She's a staff member, she's responsible for the RU community. That needs to be dealt with by this particular segment of the community or they're going to always have a hostile GM in their mind who takes care of them. In the bad way.

[Twyxx]

If the whole ban process was initiated by someone other than Alena I think a lot of people wouldn't have their panties in a twist over this ban. A lot of people see underlying bias here (and even my dumbass can see it, too, but I digress) fueling the administrative action so I'm assuming that's what makes it most intolerable.

[wargrimnir]

So what hack tools are you using that we should investigating? Because honestly, whatever you're implying that you didn't get banned for, probably means you didn't deserve to get banned for it in the first place. We're not monsters. The vk RoR site however hosted account/gold sellers for several months that we know of and gathered evidence for. They would happily be doing so now had we not laid out the initial demands.

I used to see gold\acc selling posts, then I saw then gone in a day or so. Most of people see no reason for RMT (only if you are more, than lazy). And old groupmembers usually joke about seller, knowing, that he will be banned - and post deleted.

As to "hacking tools", i can tell openly - I tried to apply AutoHotKey, not for profit, but just for the idea - will it work or not? And mostly my ideas didn't work at all (technical reasons, warhammer reasons, GM reasons). Guess, now it will be banreason. . .

I've been banning so many people in this thread right? My goodness.

Did you account for the period of time when we started tracking this site and locking down on accounts being sold? There's a reason they started to joke about them getting banned, because we were banning them. All the while the site going unmoderated with no care in the world that they were responsible for account/gold farmers using their site to propagate their cancer. I cannot believe there is not more general disgust towards this. But then again, maybe it's just that "community" who finds things like this perfectly normal.

[Morf]

For what its worth i have always made jokes with staff about buying ingame items and quite a few times responded to with outrageous terms, doesnt make its serious, i hate to think that if i had been a bitch and took ss i could of got the staff member banned and myself.

It wouldnt be the first time Alena has acted in a rash manner
viewtopic.php?f=87&t=20913
who knows maybe there are more of these examples.
Staff are human they are not immune to making mistakes or even holding a personal grudge, for once it would be nice to just admit it.

[wargrimnir]

For what its worth i have always made jokes with staff about buying ingame items and quite a few times responded to with outrageous terms, doesnt make its serious, i hate to think that if i had been a bitch and took ss i could of got the staff member banned and myself.

It wouldnt be the first time Alena has acted in a rash manner
viewtopic.php?f=87&t=20913
who knows maybe there are more of these examples.
Staff are human they are not immune to making mistakes or even holding a personal grudge, for once it would be nice to just admit it.

Here comes Morf who has personal problems with about half of our staff. Hey buddy.

[Dresden]

Spoiler:

Oh this is as good a time as any...


Remember that 'Slack' idea i had a while ago (after politely asking you if it was okay to do so and after politely being told by you (not verbatim) that it won't be the RoR staff's business if i do so) for a freely-megasalty (english speaking) RoR fan forum to resolve/discuss RoR problems/ideas away from this forum for the purpose of quite literally cutting the RoR staff some 'slack' Wargrimnir?

Well...

We're about a month out from finishing it, it's quite good.


Remember all those times i kept saying that i keep tabs on ALL the RoR chatter on the internet and that i don't put everything i find into my media topic because some of it is truely awful and wouldn't help this server/forum Wargrimnir?

Well...

I won't be searching nearly as widely in RoR media anymore.


I've been here before with some other game communities, i don't want to waste my time on suffering increasingly deeper depths of despair, i just can't take the growing lack of faith i have in the direction of this server anymore, i want to care, i really do.

Despite the time and money (just my money) that i (and five others) have put into 'Slack' (working title only) we have, after reviewing MANY issues/problems (especially including this recent issue/problem) this server/forum has, decided to just drop the entire project and bin it permanently, we see far too much potential for trouble for ourselves after this, we really just don't want that kind of hassle, this is all just too heavy, you're totally right Wargrimnir and what you're right about is just too heavy!


It's time for me to just shut up and Waaagh!!!

I'll keep playing and working on my info topics.


#WillAnyRussianCapableOfBecomingNewStaffHerePleaseStepForwardAndOfferTheirServices

Not sure if good, or bad, or good-bad? Is this good for me and bad for you? Is it bad, but good for both of us? Is he aware we use Slack as our primary communication tool among staff. Is Dresden on the inside? We must secure the gates...

It is whatever you want it to be.

Hey, funny joke.

[ergreen]

I've been banning so many people in this thread right? My goodness.

Did you account for the period of time when we started tracking this site and locking down on accounts being sold? There's a reason they started to joke about them getting banned, because we were banning them. All the while the site going unmoderated with no care in the world that they were responsible for account/gold farmers using their site to propagate their cancer. I cannot believe there is not more general disgust towards this. But then again, maybe it's just that "community" who finds things like this perfectly normal.

This is ban for "because" reason, as it seems to all of my friendly players (because correct translation of "evidence", mentioned before - I can make registation for 300Rub). And, YES it is old joke, which even was translated to english

Spoiler:

"150+150?" "300, what's the trick?" "**** a tractor driver's ****"

, you can check it anywhere.

[vladivoj]

#HandsoffTeinhala

Looks like abuse of authority. I used to ask ambiguous questions to gm's, in this group also. And still wondering - why I am still not banned? I used to discuss ideas, addons, methods - without realisation and usage. Many people warned me, now I understand why. . . When sidelong glance of administration is enough for ban. . . No comments.

So what hack tools are you using that we should investigating? Because honestly, whatever you're implying that you didn't get banned for, probably means you didn't deserve to get banned for it in the first place. We're not monsters. The vk RoR site however hosted account/gold sellers for several months that we know of and gathered evidence for. They would happily be doing so now had we not laid out the initial demands.

In my opinion most people who keep posting about Teinhala ban are having most information only from one side. Can you maybe reveal your evidence that lead you to this ban? I mean in that ban appeal forum is just described how things were. I think simple screenshot where are you asking Tenihala in PM (or some other communication tool) to delete those account selling posts and he ignore them, or refuse to do it. Or same with other thing mentioned that group was called RoR - after they refused to help Alena become moderator, just link the post where you told Teinhala that you dont want them to be having social group about RoR, or something.

After all it doesnt matter anyway, in server rules is written that you can remove anybody from server even without needing a reason. But in this case it seems like youre willing to discuss with people not included in ban (for example this topic is still open) to persuade them from wrong opinion about this situation.

Im not trying to defend anybody. I know lot of people knows the rules precisely, but are having urgent need to balance on the edge of rules broder to try the limits. They shoudlnt be surprised if they cross that edge they could get burn.

[peterthepan3]

Hope this can get sorted. Teinhala is a good dude, never had an issue with him, and I hope both sides can come to some sort of compromise. Last thing the game needs is yet more groups vanishing (for whatever reason)