The Skirmisher SW

[roadkillrobin]

Zerg surf aoe/killsteal speccRoR.builders - Shadow Warrior
Also using as regular specc with different tactics. As I'm only rr50+, requires merc. Slotted with WS atm. 970 bs, 700 ws, 6200 wounds, 22% crit in assault stance. Two instant aoe skills for ks/contribution.

Don't you think the Leading Shots works alot better then Powefull Draw tho?
8% crit for both healers and a BW/Slayer (wich you should be grouped with) compared to hitting maybe 2-3 targets more.

[Ugle]

Zerg surf aoe/killsteal speccRoR.builders - Shadow Warrior
Also using as regular specc with different tactics. As I'm only rr50+, requires merc. Slotted with WS atm. 970 bs, 700 ws, 6200 wounds, 22% crit in assault stance. Two instant aoe skills for ks/contribution.

Don't you think the Leading Shots works alot better then Powefull Draw tho?
8% crit for both healers and a BW/Slayer (wich you should be grouped with) compared to hitting maybe 2-3 targets more.

For WB specc definatley, for zerg surf specc definatley not
Also in this specc I can change tactics and gear and dont need to respecc to have a 85% optimal specc for most situations.

[dansari]

Interesting perspectives.. I never thought about what a wb spec would look like. I guess that's my NA showing!

[lastalien]

AOE WB - main dd
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=sw; ... :3957:3967:
second DD
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=sw; ... :3957:3967:

[Darosh]

AOE WB - main dd
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=sw; ... :3957:3967:
second DD
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=sw; ... :3957:3967:

You posted the same spec twice, mate.
Abbd.: Strike that, just noticed the change in tactics, my bad.

Why would you opt for the AP if you are running in a WB and some level of AP feed can be expected, and, aside from that, is it safe to run SW in a WB setting without AoE detaunt?
Last but not least, wouldn't PD net your entire WB more dps all things considered?


Semi-offtopic:
Does anyone remember Larrison by chance?

E: Words and stuff.

[roadkillrobin]

Bulls Eye = + 10% more dmg dealt and 7% more taking vs No Respite wich is basicly a flat 15% increase and +/- 0 taken. Considering you run ES aswell i really don't get it. And you can easily get a tank or healer to spec for AP recovery for you. No need for RS.

[Ugle]

If crit rate is high, bullseye is not necessary. Also would spec +75ap on dodge/disrupt instead of RS if ap is scarce given the inevitable disrupt/dodges from tanks and healers. For "offdps" Piercing defenses and Leading shots is a must yes.

As "main dps" I would also consider Powerful draw to not have to always go balls deep, but that kinda negates expert skirmisher. Considering overall back and forth flows in wb fights, I find using both overall gives the most effect.

[Darosh]

If crit rate is high, bullseye is not necessary. Also would spec +75ap on dodge/disrupt instead of RS if ap is scarce given the inevitable disrupt/dodges from tanks and healers. For "offdps" Piercing defenses and Leading shots is a must yes.

As "main dps" I would also consider Powerful draw to not have to always go balls deep, but that kinda negates expert skirmisher. Considering overall back and forth flows in wb fights, I find using both overall gives the most effect.

If theres a back and forth goin on, one could opt for applying ST pressure and skip Powerful Draw I'd say.
PD (Piercing Defense; I didn't even remember Powerful Draw...) should imo be a fix pick, it might not necessarily push your own damage to its very limits but the dps it adds to your WB as a whole will, in sum, make up for whatever you drop for it, besides LS.

Additionally you decrease the chance of your enemies avoiding crucial debuffs/cc, and given its a tactic it will stack with similar effects from normal abilites - if you were to face a kiting group you could drop a guardbots avoidance close to nil if you coordinate your stuff with members of your WB.

You on your own can reduce a guardbots block chance by 25% with Acid Arrow, if a SL gets his NS off you look at a 65% reduction of (physical) avoidance that will even strip a Chosens parry, which will open the kite group; any group really, up to proper punishment via guarddmg.

Aside from that you almost entirely negate up to 60pts of RR; the parry is 17%, the dodge 18% and the block 10%, if your targets did not invest into avoidance via RR you'll negate all avoidance they potentially gain from their gear alone - alternatively you negate one instance of HtL, well one half of it.

Abbd.: Decreasing your enemies physical avoidance below 33% - which will be the case on pretty much everything thats not a tank - is massive. Especially if you are looking at a big scale engagement with all kinds of debuffs to mainstats floating around, every bit of "true" avoidance you negate is especially a boon to those members of your WB (mdps/tanks/engis/SWs) that still, for whatever reason, struggle to approach mainstat softcap and have to chew through some of the natural avoidance aswell (arguably more relevant to mdps than rdps, however...).

E: Words and stuff.

[lastalien]

Bulls Eye = + 10% more dmg dealt and 7% more taking vs No Respite wich is basicly a flat 15% increase and +/- 0 taken. Considering you run ES aswell i really don't get it. And you can easily get a tank or healer to spec for AP recovery for you. No need for RS.

You can try other way

It is no matter, when you have tank's moral bomb
Tank and healer good, but i need more ap for aoe.