Pls enlight me

[dantesinfernalhell]

@OP
WP/dok AOE detaunt uptime: 100%
AM/shaman AOE detaunt uptime: 33.3%
RP/zealot AOE detaunt uptime: 5.5%

Furthermore the classes can't be directly compared because, for instance, the WP/dok single target detaunt is changed via tactic to get AOE range.

agree on that, but atm its like this:
AM/shaman AOE detaunt uptime: 33.3%
RP/zealot AOE detaunt uptime: 5.5%
WP/dok AOE detaunt uptime: 0% while unable to kite heal, stagger or 40%snare.

why are you trying to kite heal as a dok? you have a **** sword, USE EEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTT

[hacbjr]

AoE detaunt to WP/DoK as standard would be even more of a headache, they have twice the armour as standard compared to regular healers which is good enough.

Pls stop saying that, this is not live you cant stack armor, and you dont have TB, and if you **** up with your positioning you are done, wp/dok are pretty gimped compare to other healers, they have no tools to kite like AM/Shaman, and they cant burst heals like Rp/Zealot, its harder to kill a Shaman than any WP/Dok with aoe detaunt, so tell me why good 6 man premades prefere to bring Am/Sham + Rp/Zealot to the group than DoK/Wp, its not hard to figure.............

[dansari]

I actually see a lot of groups run doks and wps.. I dunno it's almost as if every healer has their place in a group comp

[roadkillrobin]

WP is still very good utillity vice. Prayer of Devotion still very good due to not affected by proc nerfs. Wounds buff, Exalted Defencesis some of the things WP got to keep unaffected with the class nerfs while DoK been gutted to a point of unplayeble. Everything good with them has been nerfed to oblivion.

[Danord]

why are you trying to kite heal as a dok? you have a **** sword, USE EEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTT

I hope this is meant to be a joke!

[Aurandilaz]

Zealot is good and decent for most of stuff.
Shaman is absolute bonkers in smallscale.
DoK fast gheals and gcleanse are in high demand for WBs.

No more are the boisbands running with double doks throughout zones as desperate enemy warbands try land hits on guarded DoKs that have AoE detaunt up 100% of time as they flee at the speed of light due to Odjira+QE fuelling their graceful exit from a potentially challenging fight. (honestly as a former DoK player from live I kinda miss tanking whole wbs lel)

[roadkillrobin]

Zealot is good and decent for most of stuff.
Shaman is absolute bonkers in smallscale.
DoK fast gheals and gcleanse are in high demand for WBs.

No more are the boisbands running with double doks throughout zones as desperate enemy warbands try land hits on guarded DoKs that have AoE detaunt up 100% of time as they flee at the speed of light due to Odjira+QE fuelling their graceful exit from a potentially challenging fight. (honestly as a former DoK player from live I kinda miss tanking whole wbs lel)

Actually we are running less and less DoKs atm. The class is broken and close to unplayeble.
Almoast no group utillity and the heals without able to melee back resources makes whole frontline melt after 3 groupheals. Its better to run 2x Zealot or ZE+Sham. DoK and WP was nerfed due to small scale issues and DoK are now unplayeble in warbands. WP had optional tools in Grace tree that wasn't affected by the nerfs like Wounds buff, Parry buff, Heal Prayer able to proc of AoE's and Exalted Defences wich made them able to adapt much better. But DoK as a warband healer is just trash atm.

[Foltestik]

they both (WP/DoK) have problem with SE/RF regen they have almost zero, in smallscale and scenarios you can hit samething to get same esence back but in orvr you can do **** and only pray. And when you start kiting you are dead.
i have DoK and WP (WP rr 100) on live and i start playing DoK here too, but i reroll for zealot, becouse of how DoK (dont) work here.

[hacbjr]

they both (WP/DoK) have problem with SE/RF regen they have almost zero, in smallscale and scenarios you can hit samething to get same esence back but in orvr you can do **** and only pray. And when you start kiting you are dead.
i have DoK and WP (WP rr 100) on live and i start playing DoK here too, but i reroll for zealot, becouse of how DoK (dont) work here.

+1 for this

[katroulitsa]

they both (WP/DoK) have problem with SE/RF regen they have almost zero, in smallscale and scenarios you can hit samething to get same esence back but in orvr you can do **** and only pray. And when you start kiting you are dead.
i have DoK and WP (WP rr 100) on live and i start playing DoK here too, but i reroll for zealot, becouse of how DoK (dont) work here.

You can't really expect rr100 weapons to have the same SE regen our current weapons have. Sure it sucks, but like it makes sense.

For small scale environment i think dok/wp is still okay to play, especially in organized groups, IF you know who to detaunt and which tanks to avoid that is. But it must be hell on earth in orvr or for someone new who doesn't know which players are dangerous and need to be detaunted insta.
We can at least try to get the aoe detaunt back, even with increased cd as it was suggested, and see how it goes. Even with this "buff" you wont be seeing double doks everywhere, since zealot/shaman are at a very good place atm. Same goes for WP/AM/RP ofc.
*Just my 2 cents*